From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: building NTEmacs Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:33:53 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030305173936.8AA6.LEKTU@terra.es> <20030305184149.8AA9.LEKTU@terra.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1046889512 26814 80.91.224.249 (5 Mar 2003 18:38:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 05 19:38:31 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18qdmh-0006yE-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:38:31 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18qe6d-0000YL-00 for ; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:59:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qdm6-0005pP-0C for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:37:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qdke-0005Dy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:36:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qdiP-00041r-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:34:07 -0500 Original-Received: from stlport.com ([64.39.31.56]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18qdiO-00041K-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 13:34:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [146.115.123.43] (account dave HELO PENGUIN.boost-consulting.com) by stlport.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 206268; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 10:34:03 -0800 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero In-Reply-To: <20030305184149.8AA9.LEKTU@terra.es> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:49:54 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.090016 (Oort Gnus v0.16) Emacs/21.3.50 (i386-msvc-nt5.1.2600) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12109 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12109 Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:17:49 -0500, David Abrahams wrote: > >> Ah, but the nt installation instructions don't say I should "make >> bootstrap", do they? ;-) > > On HEAD there's a INSTALL-CVS on the root directory, though you're right > there is none on EMACS_21_1_RC. :( > >> Once I do that and the -kb dance with my .tit files (oh, and I had to >> make lisp/loaddefs.el writable because I checkout with CVSREAD set), >> it seems to be working. > > Glad to hear. > >> What kind? The "emacs crashed; do you want to send a report to >> Microsoft?" window comes up. I click "no" instead of dropping into >> the debugger because I figure the build is surely optimized. > > Uh? AFAIK, there's no prebuilt binary for HEAD (we don't do nightly > tarballs, etc.), so *you* should know if the executable you're building > is optimized or not, shouldn't you? Only if I know what the build/install process does by default. It's not as though I went crawling into the nmake file to figure out what was happening. >> I don't think anything I was doing was causing images to be >> displayed, so there must be crashes elsewhere. > > As I said, I've been a few on my system, but nothing as serious as > "daily crashes", so it'd be *really* helpful to try entering the > debugger to see where's Emacs crashing. It would only help if there were debug symbols, and I don't know whether there are. Also, since I now have the release candidate I'm unlikely to have an opportunity to do that unless this one crashes too. -- Dave Abrahams Boost Consulting www.boost-consulting.com