From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: File menu changes (suggestions) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:46:04 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87psu7xdgo.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119985314 12422 80.91.229.2 (28 Jun 2005 19:01:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 28 21:01:44 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnLIm-0005RE-ES for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:59:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnLQf-000730-SO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnLMC-0006Gj-QC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:02:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DnLLy-00069f-6D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:02:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DnLLu-00061L-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 15:02:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.24] (helo=legolas.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DnLBZ-0005jq-4k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 14:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-82-189.inter.net.il [80.230.82.189]) by legolas.inter.net.il (MOS 3.5.8-GR) with ESMTP id ETA22782 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 28 Jun 2005 21:46:04 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: <87psu7xdgo.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:28:53 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39803 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39803 > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 01:28:53 -0400 > Cc: Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Rather than change menu entries's names to less "standard" ones, we should > change their behavior to better match what users expect. Yes, I agree. File->New seems like a case in point. > As for the "New File" entry, there are several options. One is to just > create a new buffer called "New Document" and not attached to any file. > This mimicks many "CUA-style" systems. It sucks because it does give us > a chance to choose a good minor mode, and because we won't be able to > autosave the file [this latter point could be fixed, of course]. > > Another option is to prompt for a file name and require confirmation if the > file already exists. It's a slightly different behavior than those other > "CUA-style" systems, but unsuspecting users should hopefully not find > it confusing, which is all we really care about. Yet another variety would be to create a buffer which does have a file, call it "Unnamed" or some such (i.e., in the default directory), and if such a file already exists, modify it by attaching something like a number. > I guess I'm just repeating what Miles and Eli have said. Ah, so that's why I agree with you ;-)