From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "What's This?" in Describe submenu Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:35:43 +0300 Message-ID: References: <4308398B.60401@gmx.at> <200508211726.j7LHQVI11729@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200508211759.j7LHxX011763@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200508212138.j7LLcLK12095@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1124682040 11900 80.91.229.2 (22 Aug 2005 03:40:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:40:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 22 05:40:28 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E73A3-0001bq-Dd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:39:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E73Dk-0000PT-T9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:43:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E73Bh-00008k-98 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:41:29 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1E73Bd-00006X-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:41:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E73Bd-000061-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1E736e-0005KY-4g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:36:16 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-247-207.inter.net.il [84.228.247.207]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.6.5-GR) with ESMTP id BFM66925 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:35:41 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200508212138.j7LLcLK12095@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:38:21 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42303 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:42303 > Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:38:21 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck > CC: rudalics@gmx.at, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > They do the same thing, that is exactly what is confusing. I don't see why, really. > > What is this "this" that is referred to in "What's this?"? > > See the discussion in this thread (almost 3 years ago): > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2002-11/msg00370.html > > You mean each time a user is confused by a menu item, they should just > search the emacs-devel archives for an explanation? No, I mean that an Emacs developer who is confused like you should search emacs-devel archives for possible solutions to his/her confusion. > That thread was mainly concerned with other stuff, but I believe the > only real problem was that "Describe Key" did not make it clear that > it also applies to menu items. The tooltip that pops up for that menu item does make this clear.