From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc: language environment should not be derived from LC_CTYPE] Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:57:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87irh5q5hz.fsf@furball.mit.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1164452275 8104 80.91.229.2 (25 Nov 2006 10:57:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:57:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 25 11:57:51 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvED-0001u0-HS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 11:57:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvED-0006Dh-2Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvDm-00067R-7v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:22 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvDk-00065j-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GnvDj-00065Q-Sz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:19 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.73] (helo=heller.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GnvDj-00020k-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2006 05:57:20 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-232-240.inter.net.il [83.130.232.240]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id BCB45162 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 12:57:16 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Reiner Steib In-reply-to: (message from Reiner Steib on Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:13:29 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:62783 Archived-At: > From: Reiner Steib > Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:13:29 +0100 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, Reiner Steib > > My understanding is that LC_CTYPE should be irrelevant with regards to > the "language used in the user interface for message translation", > because LC_MESSAGES is the relevant locale variable for this. If > LC_MESSAGES is undefined, LANG should be used. The problem is, set-locale-environment is not used to display ``messages'', as in text-mode programs that use gettext facilities. It is used to guess various locale-specific defaults. So it is no surprise that it doesn't follow to the letter the logic of other programs.