From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CVS is the `released version' Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:03:40 +0300 Message-ID: References: <2cd46e7f0705101124r72000f78xdf05d18ca815ca57@mail.gmail.com> <17991.47259.210100.801472@localhost.localdomain> <864pmfzz3c.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <17992.31731.577467.566308@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1179169448 15517 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2007 19:04:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:04:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Tromey Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 14 21:04:05 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Hnfpx-0001n9-BW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 21:04:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hnfxj-0004Ri-RD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hnfxc-0004Ju-Lg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hnfxb-0004Hz-28 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hnfxa-0004HX-O1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:11:54 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Hnfpn-0003su-4H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 14 May 2007 15:03:51 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([81.5.36.158]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id HVO97734 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 14 May 2007 22:03:50 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <17992.31731.577467.566308@localhost.localdomain> (message from Tom Tromey on Mon, 14 May 2007 08:10:43 -0700) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:71060 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:10:43 -0700 > From: Tom Tromey > Cc: Tom Tromey , rms@gnu.org, joakim@verona.se, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > > The biggest benefit I see is that packages can be updated on the > package maintainer's schedule. Emacs, on the other hand, is updated > on the Emacs maintainers' schedule. There are problems with this that no package system can ever solve: a package that is released asynchronously from Emacs runs a high risk to become broken by changes in Emacs. Packages that are released together with Emacs are generally coherent with the Emacs core, by contrast. As long as this is a real problem (and I personally don't see how it can be solved, given the high rate of changes in core code), this ``biggest benefit'' is actually a myth, IMHO.