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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug Database?
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:40:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <umz7qovm7.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pscm314g.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Sat,  21 Oct 2006 10:31:59 +0900)

> Cc: rms@gnu.org,  lekktu@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:31:59 +0900
> 
> While it's nice to have the _ability_ to submit bugs via the web (casual
> users might find it easier to deal with such an interface), I think
> email reporting is mandatory.  It's also nice to have something like
> debian's "reportbug" program, which uses a simple UI on the user's
> machine to prompt for details, but sends email to actually report the
> bug.  Basically, choice is good.
> 
> Several reasons for this:
> 
> (1) Email is available in situations where web access is not (the
>     reverse is true too of course: again, choice is good).

This goes both ways, as you say.

> (2) Typical web bug-tracker interfaces are completely awful (bugzilla,
>     I'm looking at you...)

I was suggesting a specific interface: the Savannah bug tracker.  I
think its interface is reasonable, please take a look.

> (3) Many bugs involve "conversations", with back-and-forth between
>     developers (often more than one) and bug reports.  Web-only
>     interfaces like bugzilla make this very awkward -- while it wil
>     _send_ email to indicate a new response in "the conversation" about
>     a bug, one must then go to the web page and fill in a form to reply!
>     The natural thing, simply replying (to the email'd report) via one's
>     mail client, isn't supported!

I don't see this as such a disadvantage: if you do both through Emacs,
why does it matter?

Anyway, while there are disadvantages to what I suggested, there's one
very significant advantage: we can use the Savannah bug tracking
interface, which is already used by quite a few projects and is
maintained by the FSF personnel.  The other solutions will require us
to invent everything and will put a much more serious burden on the
Emacs maintenance team.  What if whoever volunteers for this job will
some day become unavailable?  A bug-tracking system is not something
that we can afford to be down.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-21  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-17 21:49 Bug Database? Nick Roberts
2006-10-17 23:17 ` David Reitter
2006-10-18  4:24 ` Chong Yidong
2006-10-18  4:39   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18  6:22     ` Jan Djärv
2006-10-18 17:54       ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 10:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 13:35       ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:17           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19  8:50           ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 10:06               ` Jason Rumney
2006-10-21  2:02                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  5:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 10:26             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20 17:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21 12:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21  1:31             ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21  9:40               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-10-21 12:48                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-22 16:36                   ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  9:42               ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-21 12:50                 ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21 17:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 18:07                   ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23  5:11                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23  8:52                       ` Andreas Schwab
2006-10-23 18:38                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-23 12:02                       ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2006-10-24 17:41                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-21 12:05               ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:37       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-18 15:20         ` joakim
2006-10-18 16:41           ` Emacs-based web browser (was Re: Bug Database?) Magnus Henoch
2006-10-18 17:26             ` Emacs-based web browser Stefan Monnier
2006-10-18 17:36               ` Lennart Borgman
2006-10-18 18:02                 ` Magnus Henoch
2006-10-19  6:41         ` Bug Database? Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  8:30           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  6:06             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  7:53               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  7:45             ` Yavor Doganov
2006-10-23 10:45               ` Sascha Wilde
2006-10-20 22:10       ` Michael Olson
2006-10-18 10:42 ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-18 14:47   ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19  6:41     ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-19  7:04     ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19  9:26       ` David Kastrup
2006-10-19 10:07       ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-19 11:46         ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-19 12:55           ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-10-19 19:55           ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20  8:20             ` Richard Stallman
2006-10-20  9:00               ` Nick Roberts
2006-10-20 12:01                 ` Frank Schmitt
2006-10-20 20:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-21  1:08                   ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  6:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-10-20 21:00             ` David Kastrup
2006-10-21  1:21               ` Miles Bader
2006-10-20  2:19       ` Miles Bader
2006-10-21  0:31         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-10-20  6:01       ` Eli Zaretskii

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