From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows-XXXX and cpXXXX Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:52:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137155370 20081 80.91.229.2 (13 Jan 2006 12:29:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 12:29:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 13 13:29:28 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExO3Z-0007iy-NR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:29:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExNK8-0007nl-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 06:42:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExKht-0007nK-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:54:49 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ExKho-0007mq-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:54:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExKhn-0007me-1t for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:54:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ExKkj-0004VN-S0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2006 03:57:46 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-246-138.inter.net.il [84.228.246.138]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id DJD52853 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:52:10 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-reply-to: (message from Kenichi Handa on Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:58:42 +0900) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48986 Archived-At: > From: Kenichi Handa > CC: angeli@iwi.uni-sb.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:58:42 +0900 > > Even for non-DOS users, (coding-system-p 'cp1252) returns > nil or t depending on his locale. Why would non-DOS users need cp1252? why cannot they use windows-1252, which is the official IANA name of that encoding? The fact that people get confused by what the Emacs manual says about this (which I believe is what led us to this discussion) can be taken care of by fixing the manual. There's no need to modify code for that. In short, cp1252 is something we invented in codepage.el. So we might as well retire those cpXXX symbols for good, on all platforms (except DOS, which must use codepage.el). That is my suggestion: let's remove cpXXX and cpXXXX aliases from code-pages.el, and let's start educating users to use windows-XXXX instead.