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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, dreitter@inf.ed.ac.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:20:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ulk8bytt5.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87hcizihwh.fsf@red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:32:14 -0800)

> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com,  dreitter@inf.ed.ac.uk,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com>
> Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:32:14 -0800
> 
> The disadvantage is that emacs-mule is Emacs-specific.

I don't see this as a big problem in this case: this file is useless
for other applications, and almost unreadable by humans.  I use this
feature all the time, and I only looked at the file perhaps once or
twice.  It's just a huge Lisp expression.

> I've always thought of emacs-mule as a purely internal encoding
> system.

Yes; and saveplace file is an internal Emacs file, not unlike
auto-save files.

> If we're starting to push it out to files, that feels a bit
> like mission creep to me; it's not a step I'm very comfortable with.

I really don't see a rational reason for this uneasiness.  emacs-mule
is almost iso-2022; would you feel uneasy with that, too?

>    1. write it out using utf-8 on the trunk (Emacs 23) line
>    2. write it out using emacs-mule on the Emacs 22 line
>    3. make sure that saveplace.el reads the coding system from the
>       first line of the file and uses that to interpret the rest of
>       the file
> 
> Manual testing just now indicates that ";;; -*- coding: utf-8 -*-"
> will look the same (i.e., be the same sequence of bytes) in both
> coding systems, and that therefore step (3) above would work.
> 
> Does this seem reasonable to you?

Yes.

> (I'm not volunteering for (2) or (3), unfortunately.

Too bad.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04  4:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-28 14:46 saveplace: don't ask for coding system David Reitter
2007-11-28 21:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-29  0:25   ` David Reitter
2007-12-03  1:04     ` General variable for verbosity level. (was: saveplace: don't ask for coding system) Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 20:22       ` David Reitter
2007-12-03 21:44         ` General variable for verbosity level Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 22:34       ` Reiner Steib
2007-11-29  9:04   ` saveplace: don't ask for coding system Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29 21:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30  9:17       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29  9:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-02 16:51   ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 21:26     ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-02 21:31       ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 23:23         ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03  4:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 10:59             ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 11:06               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-03 21:02                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-03 20:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 21:32                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04  4:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-12-04  6:17                     ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04 20:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 16:40                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 21:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 22:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-05  4:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05  8:49                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-05 18:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05 20:05                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-06  4:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06 12:38                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 22:51                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 16:55                   ` Richard Stallman

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