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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: utf-16le vs utf-16-le
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:25:47 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ulk3fre84.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fxtof8x1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:01:14 +0900
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
> 
>  > Which 9 are needed by UTF-8?  I only see 4: the auto-detecting one,
>  > then one each for -unix. -dos, and -mac.  What am I missing?
> 
> BOM-{prohibited,auto,required}.

But we don't have these in Emacs, do we?

>  > Don't forget that en/decoding is used on strings as well, not only on
>  > buffers.  Buffer-local variables won't cut it, I think.
> 
> Strings don't have encoding signatures or newline variants

??? Of course, they do.  Emacs has no way of knowing what will be done
with the encoded string; in particular, you might well insert it into
a buffer or append it to a file.  Are you saying that Emacs should, at
the time of actual use of the string re-en/decode it according to
usage?

> those octet sequences if present in a string are merely binary octet
> sequences.  They only have special semantics in external
> representations.  Where's the problem?

A string can be sent to a process, for example, so we must have some
way of generating an external representation for it.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-15  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-13 14:54 utf-16le vs utf-16-le Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-13 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14  5:17   ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14  6:10     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 19:04         ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 17:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 18:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-13 22:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  3:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14  7:32     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  8:20       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:25         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 18:46           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 21:01             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 21:15               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-15  0:22                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15  3:25               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-04-15 16:51                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15 20:09                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:35                       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-16 20:15                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 20:32                       ` David Kastrup
2008-04-17  3:23                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17  3:26                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17  7:44                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17  8:19                               ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-17 12:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17 17:20                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17 18:03                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16 22:09                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17  1:14                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:20           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:58             ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:19               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 22:26                 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-15  5:44                     ` David Kastrup
2008-04-15 15:35                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 21:35             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14  5:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14 13:57   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14  7:02 ` tomas
2008-04-14 17:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15  7:38     ` tomas
2008-04-15 22:30       ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16  3:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16  8:12           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 13:35             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 14:45               ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 17:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 20:09               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 23:17               ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16 23:42                 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-17  1:03                   ` Kenichi Handa

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