From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: utf-16le vs utf-16-le
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:25:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ulk3fre84.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fxtof8x1.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
> Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 06:01:14 +0900
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> Eli Zaretskii writes:
>
> > Which 9 are needed by UTF-8? I only see 4: the auto-detecting one,
> > then one each for -unix. -dos, and -mac. What am I missing?
>
> BOM-{prohibited,auto,required}.
But we don't have these in Emacs, do we?
> > Don't forget that en/decoding is used on strings as well, not only on
> > buffers. Buffer-local variables won't cut it, I think.
>
> Strings don't have encoding signatures or newline variants
??? Of course, they do. Emacs has no way of knowing what will be done
with the encoded string; in particular, you might well insert it into
a buffer or append it to a file. Are you saying that Emacs should, at
the time of actual use of the string re-en/decode it according to
usage?
> those octet sequences if present in a string are merely binary octet
> sequences. They only have special semantics in external
> representations. Where's the problem?
A string can be sent to a process, for example, so we must have some
way of generating an external representation for it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-15 3:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-13 14:54 utf-16le vs utf-16-le Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-13 19:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 5:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14 6:10 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 19:04 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 18:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-13 22:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 3:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 7:32 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 8:20 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 18:25 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 18:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-14 21:01 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 21:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-04-15 0:22 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15 3:25 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-04-15 16:51 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-15 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 20:35 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-16 20:15 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 20:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-17 3:23 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17 3:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17 7:44 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17 8:19 ` Jan Djärv
2008-04-17 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17 17:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-17 18:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16 22:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-17 1:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 20:58 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 22:26 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-14 22:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-15 5:44 ` David Kastrup
2008-04-15 15:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 21:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-14 5:17 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-04-14 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-14 7:02 ` tomas
2008-04-14 17:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-15 7:38 ` tomas
2008-04-15 22:30 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16 3:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-16 8:12 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 13:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 14:45 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-16 17:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-16 20:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-16 23:17 ` Juri Linkov
2008-04-16 23:42 ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-17 1:03 ` Kenichi Handa
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=ulk3fre84.fsf@gnu.org \
--to=eliz@gnu.org \
--cc=emacs-devel@gnu.org \
--cc=stephen@xemacs.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).