From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: `hard-newline' changes trigger format=flowed in Gnus Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:17:38 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: References: <87k6er6m9l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133389542 7380 80.91.229.2 (30 Nov 2005 22:25:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 30 23:25:40 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaLn-0004Es-MS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:22:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaLn-00084X-1R for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:22:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaLa-00083T-IH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:22:42 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaLY-00080k-Qj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:22:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaLY-00080d-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:22:40 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1EhaLY-0005MB-GV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:22:40 -0500 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EhaKO-0003Zf-2I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:21:28 +0100 Original-Received: from fw-ext.alphatech.com ([198.112.236.6]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:21:28 +0100 Original-Received: from sds by fw-ext.alphatech.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:21:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: fw-ext.alphatech.com Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:RAFOJP3X/WSENOjWAojklNtomWI= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46833 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:61445 Archived-At: > * Reiner Steib [2005-11-30 21:23:16 +0100]: > > On Wed, Nov 30 2005, Sam Steingold wrote: > >>> * Reiner Steib [2005-11-30 16:10:28 +0100]: >>> >>> | On encoding text, regardless of `use-hard-newlines', lines >>> | terminated by soft newline characters are filled together and wrapped >>> | after the column decided by `fill-flowed-encode-column'. [...] >>> | If hard newline characters are not present in the buffer, no flow >>> | encoding occurs. >> >> during the short period while message.el was broken, this was _NOT_ the >> case, see, e.g., >> where my message is filled _TOGETHER_ with the message I quoted into a >> single paragraph. > > But I guess that there _where_ hard newlines in your message buffer? The honest answer, I am afraid, is "I don't know". I did not know what is a hard-newline then (and I am sorry that I do know that now), and I certainly did nothing special to get it inserted into the message. -- Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds) running w2k http://www.iris.org.il http://pmw.org.il/ http://www.memri.org/ http://truepeace.org http://ffii.org/ http://www.dhimmi.com/ People hear what they want to hear and discard the rest.