From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips and menus Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:36:11 +0300 Message-ID: References: <874pzjkuap.fsf@mit.edu> <85wtce2ino.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148323030 2645 80.91.229.2 (22 May 2006 18:37:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 18:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 22 20:37:07 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiFGk-0006lY-7A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:36:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiFGj-0007bS-Mc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:36:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiFGZ-0007bN-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiFGX-0007bB-L9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiFGX-0007b8-IA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:36:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.17] (helo=gandalf.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiFKZ-0003Nc-JT; Mon, 22 May 2006 14:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il (nitzan.inter.net.il [192.114.186.20]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.1-GA) with ESMTP id ITV47544; Mon, 22 May 2006 21:36:11 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-20-135.inter.net.il [80.230.20.135]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id DKX30075 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 22 May 2006 21:36:10 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85wtce2ino.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 22 May 2006 17:17:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55067 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:17:31 +0200 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Chong Yidong > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > Apparently not. This is why most applications, as far as I can tell, > > avoid using tooltips in menu entries. > > > > Should Emacs do that too? > > I am using Emacs with GTK (though I don't think the toolkit makes much > of a difference) and I find the tooltips on menu entries not > disruptive (they do a pretty good job at disappearing). I don't use > the menus very much though, probably like most advanced users. The > tooltips help keeping the menu entries themselves concise and thus > recognizable. > > I'd vote to keep them. Same here.