From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:01:06 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153278085 8030 80.91.229.2 (19 Jul 2006 03:01:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 19 05:01:24 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G32JO-0008TY-6O for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Jul 2006 05:01:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G32JN-0000MR-Qe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G32JA-0000Ju-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:01:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G32J8-0000GY-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G32J7-0000GQ-U3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:01:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G32M9-0005db-7I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 23:04:13 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-65-235.inter.net.il [80.230.65.235]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id FHO69184 (AUTH halo1); Wed, 19 Jul 2006 06:01:01 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57309 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:19:07 -0700 > > > > I read your other emails (unless there is yet another > > > somewhere), and I didn't see any reasons for this. > > > Please point them out. > > > > The need to have the Info manual be the first manual they read. > > > > And what is the problem in that regard? I'm not assuming they > > need to read any other manual first. > > The top-level menu in DIR is typically very long. If the Info manual > is not the first item, we have no real hope that it will be the first > one to be read. > > What sentence did you just reply to? The last two cited, of course, what else? > I repeat, "what is the problem?" Put the Info manual first. It _is_ the first one. But you want two manuals to be ``the first'', which is impossible. > Put anything you like first. Put the Info manual anywhere you like. I > haven't uttered a word about the order of the dir file. (!?) The order is how we give the new user an opportunity to read the Info manual before the other manuals. > My proposal was about the Info *tutorial*. "Info manual" and "Info tutorial" are the same thing. We are talking about the same document.