From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:27:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225452470 3146 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2008 11:27:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:27:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 12:28:51 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KvsBJ-0002u2-09 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39902 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvsAC-0006OY-8C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvsA6-0006Mt-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KvsA5-0006Mh-Af for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58881 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KvsA5-0006Me-5D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]:62611) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KvsA4-0002Qu-6F; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:27:28 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.192.143]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K9L00BO9P82YX10@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:28:51 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105190 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0900 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa > > Text in a unibyte buffer is simply a bunch of binary characters > 0-255 Here you are saying what I was saying: that these are just raw 8-bit bytes. > you can interpret them however you want, of course, but that's > not how emacs sees it. I don't mind saying that displaying such a buffer or string or movement by characters _interprets_ each byte as a single character. But interpretation and essence are two different things, and the manual does not make a point of telling that what it describes is the Emacs interpretation of such buffers, not what is actually held there. Thanks for the feedback, I will try to rephrase that text to make this distinction more clear.