From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Printing Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:53:55 +0300 Message-ID: References: <5f0660120903280331y780c80b7i57a8115dc4b029eb@mail.gmail.com> <5f0660120903281352v5d7ab83cy44fcff3cbf4581cb@mail.gmail.com> <87ljqnkvn9.fsf@jehiel.elehack.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238608621 19318 80.91.229.12 (1 Apr 2009 17:57:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 17:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: michael@elehack.net, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 01 19:58:18 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lp4hd-0002As-5B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 19:58:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60151 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp4gF-0003nv-KD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp4fP-0003Uu-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:55:59 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp4fO-0003UQ-51 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55317 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp4fN-0003UK-Tj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout6.012.net.il ([84.95.2.16]:36306) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp4fL-00009b-RE; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:55:56 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout6.012.net.il by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KHF00E00OBT1L00@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:55:54 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.171.54]) by i-mtaout6.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KHF00BSPOH5XT70@i-mtaout6.012.net.il>; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:55:54 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109968 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Cc: Stefan Monnier , michael@elehack.net, > emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:17:52 +0900 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >> What other way to print are you thinking of? > > > > The way every modern platform does that: through a printer API, > > whereby you select fonts and layout, then render text to some device, > > and the text gets printed to the printer you select. > > But that's exactly what postscript _is_ -- a printer API that lets you > select fonts and layout and then renders text to some device.... Obviously, there are some problems, since non-ASCII support in ps-print still needs a lot of tinkering and intimate knowledge of what your printing infrastructure supports. This basically didn't change since ps-mule was added about 10 years ago. There were good intentions to add support for Type1 fonts, but 10 years later there still is no ps-type1.el, and what BDF fonts produce in print is simply too ugly to be palatable.