From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why can I not receive mail from this list Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:38:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87bqwvy1k4.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140885802 22865 80.91.229.2 (25 Feb 2006 16:43:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 16:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: herberteuler@hotmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 25 17:43:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD2Vm-00052t-AG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 17:43:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD2Vn-0005iF-TI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:43:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FD2Rf-0005Ny-SO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:39:00 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FD2Rc-0005EI-9h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:38:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FD2Rb-0005Bo-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:38:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.17] (helo=gandalf.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FD2Rv-0005Kc-UW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 11:39:16 -0500 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il (nitzan.inter.net.il [192.114.186.20]) by gandalf.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.1-GA) with ESMTP id HZE02632; Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:38:12 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-254-210.inter.net.il [83.130.254.210]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id CTY46140 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 25 Feb 2006 18:38:08 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Stefan Monnier In-reply-to: <87bqwvy1k4.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:13:32 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50967 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 09:13:32 -0500 > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > I can send mail to 'help-gnu-emacs', 'emacs-devel', and > > 'bugs-gnu-emacs' successfully, and I see my mails appear > > in the lists by viewing http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/ > > etc. But why can I not receive mail from the lists? I can > > receive mails from the lists written by others, of course. > > The FSF mailer seems to regularly be mistakenly added to some blacklist > (spamcop IIRC). This happened again a few days ago. This can explain why your or the OP's mailer rejects or delays the messages from gnu.org's mailman, but it cannot explain why the delays happen for everyone, can it? I think, if the problem is slowness, then I'd rather suspect the trouble mailman has lately, due to some (unknown to me) hardware problems on the machine that hosts it. I spotted several occasions during the last couple of months where mailman was down for several hours. When I asked sysadmins, I was told that the problem is known and will be solved some time soon.