From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Kyllingstad Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:12:14 -0100 Message-ID: References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <48B7F905.7060605@gmail.com> <001301c909e8$d63092e0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <20080829153958.GB1053@muc.de> <001501c909f4$c40175b0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1220048063 13428 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 22:14:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:14:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii , jasonr@gnu.org, Drew Adams To: "David House" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 30 00:15:16 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KZCFH-0006eQ-Pm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:15:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZCEI-0001yt-Si for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:14:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZCCm-00012i-I2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KZCCj-0000zM-8Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:31 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53820 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KZCCi-0000z8-PW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.esmertec.com ([212.249.37.45]:35183 helo=postie.esmertec.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KZCCa-0002a9-Nj; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:12:21 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FCC31A7B; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from postie.esmertec.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (postie.esmertec.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21753-09; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.esmertec.com (unknown [10.10.10.10]) by postie.esmertec.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807251A943; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from BARBUDA ([10.10.9.60]) by mail.esmertec.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:12:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (David House's message of "Fri\, 29 Aug 2008 17\:43\:06 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2 (windows-nt) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Aug 2008 22:12:17.0327 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C609BF0:01C90A24] X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at esmertec.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103220 Archived-At: * David House: > 2008/8/29 Drew Adams : > > BTW - Question: if `delete-by-moving-to-trash' is non-nil, should Dired > > still ask you for confirmation for deletion? Dunno. Perhaps that could > > be a choice (separate values for `delete-by-moving-to-trash'). >=20=20 > I think no -- I can't think of a system where you are asked whether to > perform some reversible operation (and I can't think of a reason why > you should be). >=20=20 > I still feel the best default is to send the file to trash without > asking any questions, then inform the user that this has happened. > (E.g. (message "File sent to trash folder %s" path-to-trash).) This And mentions: " to undo". It doesn't get in your way, but in case it was a quick mistake you immediately see how to fix it (this is how gmail handles similar actions, and it's just brilliant). Also, being able to use standard undo to undelete files is sadly not yet standard so it's not expected. Btw, I use dired quite a bit, but for copying and moving files I often end up using something else to be able to perform it in the background, with some indication of the progress. Would that Emacs could do that. -- Ren=E9