From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: C-z (Re: Two GTK related feature requests) Date: 26 Oct 2003 08:11:35 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oew8so3g.fsf@cs.cmu.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067148691 10955 80.91.224.253 (26 Oct 2003 06:11:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:11:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 26 07:11:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADe7d-0003bR-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:11:29 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ADe7d-0005GF-00 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 07:11:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADe6e-0004pM-M7 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:10:28 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADe6L-0004mj-N0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ADe5p-0004Lg-Ap for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ADe5o-0004Gn-Kd; Sun, 26 Oct 2003 01:09:36 -0500 Original-To: Karl Eichwalder In-reply-to: (message from Karl Eichwalder on Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:10:04 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17432 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17432 > From: Karl Eichwalder > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 05:10:04 +0100 > > Reminds me... I'd like to see C-z de-assigned from > iconify-or-deiconify-frame. It happens to me much to often that I > press this key combo by accident without the possibility to 'undo' (C-g) > this action. I'm forced to use features of the windowmanager to > deiconify Emacs. This isn't userfriendly. Why can't you simply unbind C-z in your .emacs? There's always "C-x C-z" which does the same, should you need that. I have a similar problem, except that in my case C-z is bound to a different command. I'm so used to that other command that when I work in "emacs -q" or on someone else's machine, I frequently forget and press C-z. But I never thought it was a reason good enough to unbind C-z by default: it is simply my personal problem, so I deal with it as God intended. ;-) > People are used to make use of the windowmanager to iconify a frame; Only some ``people''; others don't want to move their hands to the mouse or some function key to do that.