From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fix to long-standing crashes in GC Date: 24 May 2004 07:30:13 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <40A3BC23.8060000@math.ku.dk> <40AF976B.2090104@math.ku.dk> <9003-Sun23May2004183302+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <200405231632.i4NGWZo07382@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085372997 23548 80.91.224.253 (24 May 2004 04:29:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 04:29:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: larsh@math.ku.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon May 24 06:29:51 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BS75z-0006o1-00 for ; Mon, 24 May 2004 06:29:51 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BS75y-0004VV-00 for ; Mon, 24 May 2004 06:29:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BS75Z-0001mh-Kb for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:29:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BS758-0001TU-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BS74R-0000kq-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:28:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BS74Q-0000eY-KG; Mon, 24 May 2004 00:28:15 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200405231632.i4NGWZo07382@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 23 May 2004 11:32:35 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23875 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23875 > Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 11:32:35 -0500 (CDT) > From: Luc Teirlinck > > There's some guidance in the file etc/DEBUG (search for "in GC"), and > you can always ask for more specific help here. > > Yes, except that the guidance there seems to assume that the person > doing the debugging has a pretty good knowledge about Emacs memory > management. If you can show where's the text that assumes that, i.e. is not clear to someone who doesn't have a good knowledge about Emacs memory management, I'm sure someone will try to improve those parts of the text. For the record, that part of etc/DEBUG summarizes what I learned debugging (with Richard's help) a tricky problem that caused rare crashes inside GC. At the time, I knew almost nothing about the GC machinery.