From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Silent autoloading Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:54:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226256899 8287 80.91.229.12 (9 Nov 2008 18:54:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 18:54:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 09 19:56:02 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KzFS5-0006LJ-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 19:56:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58892 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFQx-0001dJ-SZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:54:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFQt-0001dB-3Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:54:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFQr-0001cz-L4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:54:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46300 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KzFQr-0001cw-DH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:54:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mtaout3.012.net.il ([84.95.2.7]:58020) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KzFQp-000833-Vv; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:54:44 -0500 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout3.012.net.il by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KA200100XVWT800@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:56:29 +0200 (IST) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.126.241.172]) by i_mtaout3.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KA200KYUXY4NJ61@i_mtaout3.012.net.il>; Sun, 09 Nov 2008 20:56:29 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105506 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:06:03 -0500 > > > Maybe Tramp is a large package, but then "C-x C-f" is a very > > frequently used command. > > Ah, yes, I see that for Tramp indeed. > How 'bout making Tramp output something before loading itself? I don't mind, but are we going to hunt down every slow-loading package and add a message to them as well? Why not the other way around: re-enable the "Loading..." messages by default and introduce a variable to suppress it? Then Lisp code that needed this to be turned off (something with timers, IIUC) could simply bind that variable to an appropriate value when doing its thing.