From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:52:39 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310282009.h9SK95E06713@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067432080 27254 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 12:54:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@elta.co.il, dirt@gtk.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 13:54:37 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEpqP-0001b2-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:54:37 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEpqP-0008FS-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 13:54:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEpq5-0007LZ-P1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:54:17 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEppq-0007J8-Og for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:54:02 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEppK-00075X-G2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:54:01 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEppG-00074c-LY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 07:53:26 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 32721 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Oct 2003 12:53:24 -0000 Original-Received: from dialin-145-254-193-001.arcor-ip.net (EHLO HERMES) (145.254.193.1) by mail.gmx.net (mp003) with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 13:53:24 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1497658 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-Reply-To: <200310282009.h9SK95E06713@f7.net> (Karl Berry's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 2003 15:09:05 -0500") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17542 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17542 karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) writes: [...] > I don't see any particular advantage to writing ^H^[bold^H^] (or > or whatever) instead of ^[[3m, and the implementation in both info and > M-x info gets much more complex if we introduce a layer of indirection, > which all it really amounts to. [...] With all due respect, I don't see an improvement in using ANSI escape sequences. Maybe old tty info readers would send the escape sequences to the terminal, but you'd still need an Emacs info reader which is up to date, anyways. Given that you have compatibility issues in either case, I'd like to plea for a syntactical markup. ^H^[code^H^] and ^H^[example^H^] or ^H^[emph^H^] for example, if that fits to the current info file format. Oliver -- Oliver Scholz 8 Brumaire an 212 de la Révolution Taunusstr. 25 Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité! 60329 Frankfurt a. M. http://www.jungdemokratenhessen.de Tel. (069) 97 40 99 42 http://www.jdjl.org