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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: How to change line endings - where is it explained?
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:29:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uejyw4afw.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44679068.20404@student.lu.se> (message from Lennart Borgman on Sun, 14 May 2006 22:17:44 +0200)

> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:17:44 +0200
> From: Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se>
> CC:  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> >> - Something about line endings too in "(emacs) Files", possibly in 
> >> connection with the link above.
> >
> > Ditto: "Visiting" already talks about EOLs.
> >   
> Oh, I found it! But I did not see it before. The reason is that I am 
> nearly always searching, not reading.

That is almost certainly not the right way to use the manual.
Searching is a vehicle of getting to the right node, but once you are
already there, you should read it in its entirety.

> In "(emacs) Visiting" the term for 
> line endings is "convention it uses to separate lines". Could perhaps 
> "(line endings)" be added right after this? :

I actually dislike the term "line endings"; "end-of-line format" is a
better term, IMO.

> >> - "(emacs) Coding Systems" should mention 'dos, 'unix and 'mac.
> >
> > It already does, please take a closer look.
> >   
> I just checked out a fresh copy from CVS and I am afraid I still can not 
> find anything about the use of just 'dos, 'unix and 'mac

??? How can that be?  Are we talking about the same thing here?
Here's the fragment I had in mind:

       Each of the listed coding systems has three variants which specify
    exactly what to do for end-of-line conversion:

    `...-unix'
	 Don't do any end-of-line conversion; assume the file uses newline
	 to separate lines.  (This is the convention normally used on Unix
	 and GNU systems.)

    `...-dos'
	 Assume the file uses carriage-return linefeed to separate lines,
	 and do the appropriate conversion.  (This is the convention
	 normally used on Microsoft systems.(2))

    `...-mac'
	 Assume the file uses carriage-return to separate lines, and do the
	 appropriate conversion.  (This is the convention normally used on
	 the Macintosh system.)

       These variant coding systems are omitted from the
    `list-coding-systems' display for brevity, since they are entirely
    predictable.  For example, the coding system `iso-latin-1' has variants
    `iso-latin-1-unix', `iso-latin-1-dos' and `iso-latin-1-mac'.

> like in
> 
>     M-x set-buffer-file-coding-system RET unix RET
> 
> As I understand it this changes just the line endings to unix style 
> (LF). Would it not be good to mention this feature?

Ah, you mean this paragraph (from "Text Coding"):

       You can also use this command to specify the end-of-line conversion
    (*note end-of-line conversion: Coding Systems.) for encoding the
    current buffer.  For example, `C-x <RET> f dos <RET>' will cause Emacs
    to save the current buffer's text with DOS-style CRLF line endings.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-05-14 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-08 22:45 How to change line endings - where is it explained? Lennart Borgman
2006-05-09  3:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-09  5:48   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-12 17:57     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-14 20:17       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-14 20:29         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2006-05-14 21:00           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-15  3:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-15 20:37               ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-09  5:51   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-09 19:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-09 19:41       ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-09 22:04         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-05-10  3:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-10  5:49           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-05-11  3:44             ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-11 18:29               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-05-12 14:34               ` Eli Zaretskii

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