From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ugliness in simple.el CVS log Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:06:14 +0300 Message-ID: References: <17964.14254.508886.277361@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17964.30085.167317.958498@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17964.32513.963688.349449@farnswood.snap.net.nz> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177330007 18640 80.91.229.12 (23 Apr 2007 12:06:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 12:06:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, miles@gnu.org To: Nick Roberts Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 23 14:06:41 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HfxJX-0005PU-SF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:06:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HfxOw-0000hF-78 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:12:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HfxOq-0000eu-5e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:12:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HfxOm-0000du-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:12:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HfxOm-0000dr-76 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:12:04 -0400 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HfxJE-0004Yq-FA; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 08:06:20 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-148-102.inter.net.il [80.230.148.102]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id CKN66193 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:06:14 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <17964.32513.963688.349449@farnswood.snap.net.nz> (message from Nick Roberts on Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:40:17 +1200) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69849 Archived-At: > From: Nick Roberts > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 21:40:17 +1200 > Cc: miles@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > Please let's trust Miles that he knows his way with "cvs admin -m". > > He's one of the few project admins for a very good reason. > > It's not just one file as Thi suggests, and AFAIK logs and code are stored in > the same files. The reason for having few project admins can only be that > it's easy to mess things up. But if we don't allow even admins to do those things, then why have admins at all? > Since, as you say, the correct change doesn't affect any file that > goes into the tarball, why take any risk, however small? Because much more risky changes were done recently and are probably being done as we speak, and I don't think I remember you protesting so vehemently. Let us have a bit of consistency here, or else people would ridicule us when we request that no unnecessary changes should be done before the release. If "admin -m" is deemed dangerous, then what about changes to the manuals, let alone C and Lisp files? they all have been made even today. Anyway, any possible damage to RCS files will be noted because as part of tarring the release one must build Emacs. So there's no danger that a damaged Emacs will be released.