22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

[Joe Buehler]

I'm the maintainer for gnu emacs under Cygwin.  Given the "release" of
the 22.0.90 alpha, is there a timeframe for the final release?  I would
like to know how much time I have to get patches in before release of
22.1 (or whatever it will be).  I would like the official Cygwin version
when available to not require any Cygwin-private patches.

-- 
Joe Buehler

Re: 22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Joe Buehler <jbuehler@spirentcom.com>
> Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 08:46:34 -0500
> 
> I'm the maintainer for gnu emacs under Cygwin.

It's good to know there is a Cygwin maintainer.  Thanks for working on
the Cygwin port.

> Given the "release" of the 22.0.90 alpha

Actually, 22.0.91 was released yesterday.

> is there a timeframe for the final release?  I would
> like to know how much time I have to get patches in before release of
> 22.1 (or whatever it will be).  I would like the official Cygwin version
> when available to not require any Cygwin-private patches.

I don't think anyone has any clear idea where Emacs 22.1 will be out,
unless you will accept "soon" as an answer.

However, no matter when the release will happen, now is the time to
submit patches for it to compile and run on Cygwin.

Btw, I hope you are aware of quite a few problems reported here and on
emacs-pretest-bug that are specific to the Cygwin build.  If not,
please try to read them and resolve them, either by patches or by
suggesting entries in etc/PROBLEMS.

TIA

Re: Building Emacs-cvs on Cygwin (GCC summary)

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 23:06:04 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: maks.romih@t-2.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> > Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:16:28 -0500
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > 
> >     > GCC-3.4.4-(1/2)                         Segment fault 
> >     > 
> >     > GCC-4.0.3                               OK 
> >     > GCC-4.1.1                               OK 
> >     > 
> >     > GCC-4.2-20061024(prerelease)            M-x undefined 
> >     > GCC-4.3-20061022(experim.)              M-x undefined 
> >     > 
> >     > 
> >     > In conclusion on Cygwin only the build with GCC-4.0.3 and > 4.1.1 seem to 
> >     > work fine. 
> > 
> > Let's document that people should not use GCC 3.4 on Cygwin.
> > Where is the best place to document this?
> 
> I will document that in etc/PROBLEMS.

Done.

Re: 22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

[Angelo Graziosi]

Joe Buehler wrote:

> I'm the maintainer for gnu emacs under Cygwin.


We are happy to hear that you are still the Cygwin mantainer of Emacs!

Have you recently 'frequented' the Cygwin lists ?

It is almost an year that Emacs is considered an 'orphaned' package!

(http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin-apps/2005-10/msg00246.html,
http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin-apps/2006-10/msg00017.html)



Cheers,

   Angelo. 

Re: 22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

[Angelo Graziosi]

Joe Buehler wrote:

> I'm the maintainer for gnu emacs under Cygwin.


Have you tried to build Emacs from CVS?

What about this 

--------------------------------------------------------------------

....

Finding pointers to doc strings...
Finding pointers to doc strings...done
Dumping under the name emacs
Static heap usage: 10779888 of 12582912 bytes
66931 pure bytes used
mv -f emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/emacs/.build/src'
(cd lisp; make -w bootstrap EMACS=../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe)
make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/emacs/.build/lisp'
wd=/tmp/emacs/lisp; subdirs=`(cd $wd; find . -type d -print)`; for file in
$subdirs; do case $file in */Old | */RCS | */CVS | */CVS/* | */.* | */.*/*
| */=* ) ;; *) wins="$wins $wd/$file" ;; esac; done; \
        for file in $wins; do \
           /tmp/emacs/lisp/../update-subdirs $file; \
        done;
wd=/tmp/emacs/lisp; subdirs=`(cd $wd; find . -type d -print)`; for file in
$subdirs; do case $file in */Old | */RCS | */CVS | */CVS/* | */.* | */.*/*
| */=* ) ;; *) wins="$wins $wd/$file" ;; esac; done; \
        echo Directories: $wins; \
        ../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe -batch --no-site-file --multibyte -l
autoload --eval '(setq generated-autoload-file
"/tmp/emacs/lisp/loaddefs.el")' -f batch-update-autoloads $wins
Directories: /tmp/emacs/lisp/. /tmp/emacs/lisp/./calc
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./calendar /tmp/emacs/lisp/./emacs-lisp
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./emulation /tmp/emacs/lisp/./erc /tmp/emacs/lisp/./eshell
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./gnus /tmp/emacs/lisp/./international
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./language /tmp/emacs/lisp/./mail /tmp/emacs/lisp/./mh-e
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./net /tmp/emacs/lisp/./obsolete /tmp/emacs/lisp/./play
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./progmodes /tmp/emacs/lisp/./term
/tmp/emacs/lisp/./textmodes /tmp/emacs/lisp/./url
Fatal error (6)/bin/sh: line 2:  3596 Aborted                 (core
dumped) ../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe -batch --no-site-file --multibyte -l
autoload --eval '(setq generated-autoload-file
"/tmp/emacs/lisp/loaddefs.el")' -f batch-update-autoloads $wins
make[2]: *** [autoloads] Error 134
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/emacs/.build/lisp'
make[1]: *** [bootstrap-build] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/emacs/.build'
make: *** [bootstrap] Error 2 
--------------------------------------------------------------------


and similar failures that periodically come out in building under Cygwin?


Are your build  'stable' or 'segment fault's ? 

The builds with gcc-4.0.3 seem very stable, those with gcc-3.4.4-1 (the
only GCC in Cygwin) seem very 'unstable'. What is your results?


   Angelo.

Re: 22.1 Cygwin emacs timeframe query

[Angelo Graziosi]

Joe Buehler wrote:

> I'm the maintainer for gnu emacs under Cygwin.

If you are the mantainer, do you know the problems that have afflicted the
Emacs-21.2-13/21.3.50-2 users in the last year?

The main problem is that after a 'rebaseall' Emacs hangs. 

The workaround found was that after the rebase one should reinstall the
non rebased version of cygncurses7.dll of the libncurses7 package.

By the Cygwin mantainers it was suggested that the 'Emacs mantainer' had
to rebuild Emacs linking with the new libncurses (8), at least to verify
if this help.

In the meanwhile, why was it not released a CVS build of Emacs (at least
as exp. package, even if in Cygwin distribution there are package in
'curr' section that are taken from CVS, GDB e.g.)?


  Angelo.