From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Another VC terminology change? Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20071011143005.GA18057@thyrsus.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1192176916 10091 80.91.229.12 (12 Oct 2007 08:15:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: esr@thyrsus.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 12 10:15:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IgFfk-0000u0-HF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:15:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgFfe-00054N-Go for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:14:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IgFfa-00050a-GT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IgFfZ-0004zK-Rr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:14:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IgFfZ-0004z8-Nt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IgFfZ-0003T5-6R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:14:53 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-64-182.inter.net.il [80.230.64.182]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id DVL11717 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:14:50 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <20071011143005.GA18057@thyrsus.com> (esr@thyrsus.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:80700 Archived-At: > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:30:05 -0400 > From: "Eric S. Raymond" > > The terms ``checkin'' and ``checkout'' are associated with file-based > and locking-based systems and a bit archaic; nowadays those operations > are usually called ``commit'' and ``update''. > > Since I've had to take a big hammer to VC's terminology anyway to clean up the > inconsistencies Stefan pointed out, I'm thinking now might be a good time > for me to go further and change these. > > The argument against, of course, is that users are accustomed to these > terms. They're embedded in VC because when I originally wrote it SCCS > and RCS were the only games in town[1] and these are the terms they used. > > The argument for is that 'commit' and 'update' are a better match for the > terms CVS introduced and every subsequent VCS we're interested in has pretty > much retained. How about making the replacement, but adding a footnote saying that some older VCS backends call these operations ``checkin'' and ``checkout''?