From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: 15 Nov 2002 08:36:44 -0800 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200211071936.gA7JaBMU001860@stubby.bodenonline.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037379917 16963 80.91.224.249 (15 Nov 2002 17:05:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:05:17 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18Cju7-0004PP-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:05:15 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18Ck75-000442-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 18:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CjfQ-0007Rw-00; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CjSa-00049h-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:36:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CjSY-00049S-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:36:47 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CjSY-00049L-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:36:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CjQo-0002Hl-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:34:58 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CjQo-0002Ha-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 17:34:58 +0100 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dhcp-146-225-32-177.synopsys.com Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037378097 7055 146.225.32.177 (15 Nov 2002 16:34:57 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 16:34:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9457 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9457 >>>>> Miles Bader writes: > Richard Stallman writes: >>> In that case, tooltips for menus only popup if you use the "What's >>> this?" command (Shift-F1). >> If users are accustomed to this and like it, it would be a good >> approach. But can it be implemented without changing the toolkits? >> This might be a useful change to make in GTK. > Some users may be more used to it (I don't know), but I presume not > Gnome users -- Gnome panel menus act exactly like emacs menus > currently do, they pop up tooltips without any special command. > I like the current method, so I hope any change is completely > optional (and certainly I'd like to use a GTK toolkit version of > emacs). Can you be a little more precise as to why you like the current method? From another of your messages, my guess is that you don't use the menu directly, you just use it as documentation. If so, then having the tooltips popup on their own makes sense. However, if you were going to use the menu, I would think the tooltip popping up might get in the way. Obviously, you could turn off the tooltips all together, but having a "What's this?" command might be a little more flexible. -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA