From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathias Dahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: thumbs.el and transparency Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:54:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87y814vhxj.fsf@jurta.org> <17367.17105.271024.157799@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138303891 5227 80.91.229.2 (26 Jan 2006 19:31:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 26 20:31:30 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2Cpm-0005cp-Di for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:31:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2Csa-00064T-A1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 14:34:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F2CJy-0007jE-3v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:58:14 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F2CJi-0007aH-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:58:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F2CJi-0007aE-Ce for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:57:58 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.41.67] (helo=mx20.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1F2CH6-0005PA-8g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:55:16 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F2CGc-0004LH-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 13:54:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1F2CFm-0002wM-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:57 +0100 Original-Received: from user.ifsab.se ([193.41.170.225]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:54 +0100 Original-Received: from brakjoller by user.ifsab.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user.ifsab.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:zBN4TDYS1OSQ8/DJdXHnNRIW0nM= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49593 Archived-At: Nick Roberts writes: > > Could you change it to generate thumbnail images according to the > > Thumbnail Managing Standard? > > I've not even heard of the Thumbnail Managing Standard. Does it deal with > transparency? Or is it a tangential question? >>From what I remember the standard uses PNG files only, and as far as I know, PNG supports > > I now have 4 (!) thumbnail directories that all share the same purpose: > > > > ~/.emacs-thumbs > > ~/.emacs.d/thumbs > > ~/.thumbnails > > ~/.tumme > > > > This is ridiculous. Let's unify them all before the release. I think it's fun! :) Seriously, yes, it is kinda silly. > Unifying them presupposes an understanding of the requirements. > By all accounts both thumbs and tumme are immature, so I'm not sure that we're > at that stage yet (I'm certainly not). Before Richard allowed tumme.el into Emacs I tried to copy as many features from thumbs.el as possible into tumme.el. Everything is not there yet, but its on the todo-list. Tumme and thumbs are in many ways very similar. They display thumbnails of pictures, you can act on those thumbnails to do various things (display, manipulate etc), they are somewhat integrated in dired etc. Why do we need two packages for doing this? Of course, I like tumme better, else I wouldn't have written it, but this isn't some ego-thing, if someone thought that. I would be equally glad to merge tumme stuff into thumbs and make that the main thumbnial/image viewer, although for me that would be harder to do then the other way around. What I would like is much more input from a user's perspective, in what areas tumme lacks compared to thumbs. OK, I better stop now, don't want to start one of those long threads...