From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: rcirc manual Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:10:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ek3hgunn.fsf@killalla.dreaming> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1137255676 18234 80.91.229.2 (14 Jan 2006 16:21:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 14 17:21:13 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Exo9N-0000YV-9t for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:21:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ExoBW-0007gC-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:23:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Exn6b-0001yu-NI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:14:15 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Exn6V-0001tR-Mv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:14:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Exn4o-0000x1-EA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:12:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Exn7y-0008Sa-Oy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-153-247.inter.net.il [80.230.153.247]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id CLP12165 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:09:58 +0200 (IST) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:49074 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:20:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: "Robert J. Chassell" > CC: karl@freefriends.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > I think the effect of @key is not what you want; in particular > @kbd{M-@key{x}} looks ugly. > > (No one that I know would write @kbd{M-@key{x}}. Instead, he or she > would write either @kbd{M-x} or @key{M-x}.) AFAIU, @key{M-x} is wrong, since there's no key labeled "M-x". > Yes. I agree. Of course, everyone must check lest someone say "press > the TAB key" when he or she really means "you can use TAB ...", but > that is a different issue. If there's _any_ justification for using @key outside the keyboard description, it's to make a point that "C-x ESC" does not mean one must type "C-x E S C", i.e. type the literal characters E, S, and C. I don't think there could be such confusion in the phrase "you can use TAB".