From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: unhelpful menu keybinding notes Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:28:34 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145258939 15347 80.91.229.2 (17 Apr 2006 07:28:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 07:28:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 17 09:28:56 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOAH-0000mm-7E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 09:28:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOAG-00055O-LE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOA1-00054u-6i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:28:37 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOA0-00054W-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FVOA0-00054T-8i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:28:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FVOAa-0008AR-FX; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 03:29:12 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-11-227.inter.net.il [80.230.11.227]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id DDQ28602 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 17 Apr 2006 10:28:31 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: Miles Bader In-reply-to: (message from Miles Bader on Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:25 +0900) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:52947 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:36:25 +0900 > > In the GTK version of emacs, the keybinding notes for the "Edit > Cut" > and "Edit > Copy" menu entries say "" and "" respectively. > > Those names don't seem very useful to me, as most keyboards don't have > such keys; also they don't help teach the real Emacs bindings. > Shouldn't those just say "C-w" and "M-w" ? This happens to come up periodically; I remember at least 2 discussions in the past. and are Sun keyboard's keys, and IIRC the problem is we don't have any good way to specify, for a command that has several keybindings, which one gets mentioned in the menu. I think we currently display the last one bound. Also, please note that, at least by default on GUI displays, these menu items don't invoke the same functions as C-w and M-w (because x-win.el turns on menu-bar-enable-clipboard).