From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: doc patch: "Saving Properties" merge into "Format Conversion" Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 19:50:24 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87ps5m2s7z.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <87bqh3zi91.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <17978.34192.154994.884454@farnswood.snap.net.nz> <17979.51666.93559.254397@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <17981.10185.173469.54017@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87slaav9jr.fsf@catnip.gol.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1178470236 13368 80.91.229.12 (6 May 2007 16:50:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 16:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 06 18:50:34 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HkjwQ-0002YP-9x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 18:50:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hkk3I-0000oj-Ei for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 12:57:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hkk3E-0000mE-Oi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 12:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Hkk3D-0000jp-Cd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 12:57:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Hkk3D-0000jd-67 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2007 12:57:35 -0400 Original-Received: from heller.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.23]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HkjwJ-0007cZ-IL; Sun, 06 May 2007 12:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-51-111.inter.net.il [84.228.51.111]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id CNF94981 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 6 May 2007 19:50:22 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <87slaav9jr.fsf@catnip.gol.com> (message from Miles Bader on Sun, 06 May 2007 13:51:52 +0900) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70594 Archived-At: > From: Miles Bader > Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 13:51:52 +0900 > Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > There are some people who apparently think hysterics, apocalyptic > predictions, and sheer volume are the key to promoting their point of > view. > > I also disagree with some of Richard's ideas (e.g. releasing 22.2 from > the trunk, the microseconds/milliseconds/whatever patch), but I don't > think screaming and moaning is going to solve a damn thing, particularly > at a time when the right thing to do is move carefully and deliberately. > > Grow up people. You can disagree without acting like a spoiled 2 year old. I don't necessarily subscribe to every heated word that's been uttered here lately, but I think your interpretation is mistaken. People are not hysterical nor spoiled-2-year-olds, they are desperate. Desperate people can act like this, I'm sure you will agree. The way to avoid this is not to cause despair in the first place.