From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Next release
Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 12:32:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <uabj1dtti.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1w4d1tcv.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 07 May 2008 21:26:57 -0400
>
> On X11, when I start `emacs', the first thing that happens is to open
> a frame, with the toolbar, and only after that is the .emacs
> file loaded.
>
> So how can Emacs-22 on W32 avoid loading the image libraries before
> loading the .emacs, other than by not displaying the tool-bar, and if so
> how does it avoid displaying the tool-bar before loading the .emacs?
Like Jason, I don't have the detailed explanation why, but as a matter
of fact, when Emacs starts on Windows, it only shows the initial frame
with empty text area, and the menu bar. The tool bar appears only
when the first time Emacs performs a full redisplay, e.g. if it asks
me whether to load a desktop file that is locked by another session.
AFAIR, the tool bar is handled by Emacs as a special kind of window,
which could explain why it isn't shown until redisplay.
As for why this is different from X11: what toolkit was used in the
version of Emacs you started above? If that was GTK+, perhaps what
you see is something specific to GTK, which handles the tool bar in
some different way? Can you try with other toolkits?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-05-08 9:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-05-01 9:48 Next release Nick Roberts
2008-05-01 10:32 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-01 23:07 ` Nick Roberts
2008-05-02 0:04 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-01 17:43 ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-01 19:52 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-01 20:30 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-02 1:00 ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-02 6:48 ` CHENG Gao
2008-05-03 1:00 ` Bob
2008-05-03 8:09 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-03 9:22 ` CHENG Gao
2008-05-03 9:49 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-03 18:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-03 19:08 ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-03 21:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 9:37 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04 9:37 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-06 0:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-23 20:18 ` Problems preloading x-win.el (was: Next release) Stefan Monnier
2008-05-23 21:54 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-24 2:22 ` Problems preloading x-win.el Stefan Monnier
2008-05-24 3:19 ` Problems preloading x-win.el (was: Next release) YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-02 13:31 ` Next release Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-02 13:52 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-02 15:24 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-02 16:10 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-03 9:38 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-03 19:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 0:56 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04 1:25 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 1:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 1:57 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 5:07 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 15:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05 1:28 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-05 5:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 21:35 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-04 23:52 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-05 0:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-05 7:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-07 18:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-07 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 1:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08 8:22 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08 8:32 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 9:04 ` David Reitter
2008-05-08 10:40 ` Jan Djärv
2008-05-08 10:55 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-10 8:55 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-10 20:30 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-10 23:53 ` David Reitter
2008-05-08 9:06 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-08 9:22 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08 9:35 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-08 9:44 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 19:47 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-05-08 20:56 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-09 0:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-09 1:04 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-09 6:07 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-05-09 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 9:51 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-08 10:08 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 10:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 10:36 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-09 23:54 ` Juri Linkov
2008-05-08 9:45 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-08 10:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-08 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08 13:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-08 14:50 ` Miles Bader
2008-05-09 11:12 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-08 9:32 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-05-08 13:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-08 2:34 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-05-09 1:35 ` Tool-bar changes (Was: Next release) Chong Yidong
2008-05-09 3:25 ` Tool-bar changes Stefan Monnier
2008-05-09 5:53 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-05-13 18:07 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-13 18:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-13 18:38 ` David Reitter
2008-05-13 19:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-14 2:17 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14 4:28 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14 4:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-14 19:30 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-14 20:50 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-15 1:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-06 0:40 ` Next release YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 21:23 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-05 0:44 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2008-05-04 2:06 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04 4:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-04 6:58 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04 8:15 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-04 18:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-05-04 18:59 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-05-04 20:31 ` Thomas Lord
2008-05-04 7:36 ` David Kastrup
2008-05-04 16:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-05-04 14:34 ` Jason Rumney
2008-05-02 21:13 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-02 21:32 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-03 0:11 ` Glenn Morris
2008-05-03 14:49 ` Chong Yidong
2008-05-03 17:02 ` Alex
2008-05-03 21:00 ` Richard M Stallman
2008-05-04 3:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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