From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs-diffs Digest, Vol 50, Issue 7 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1167775245 25067 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2007 22:00:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 02 23:00:42 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1H1rgH-0003is-4N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:00:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H1rgG-0001Hl-CH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:00:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H1rg1-0001H4-QS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1H1rg1-0001GK-3m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1H1rg0-0001Fs-Vj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.73] (helo=heller.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1H1rfz-0004TC-2Q; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-83-130-254-190.inter.net.il [83.130.254.190]) by heller.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id BKW69036 (AUTH halo1); Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:00:02 +0200 (IST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (emacs-diffs-request@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:64652 Archived-At: IMO this change in the manual of the text I wrote is ridiculous: > --- msdog.texi 27 Dec 2006 12:49:00 -0000 1.64 > +++ msdog.texi 2 Jan 2007 21:00:44 -0000 1.65 > @@ -334,11 +334,14 @@ > keyboard input in Emacs. > > @cindex MS-Windows keyboard shortcuts > - Many key combinations (known as ``keyboard shortcuts'') that are in > -widespread use in MS-Windows programs are taken by various Emacs > -features. Examples include @kbd{C-C}, @kbd{C-X}, @kbd{C-Z}, > -@kbd{C-A}, and @kbd{W-SPC}. You can get some of them back by turning > -on CUA Mode (@pxref{CUA Bindings}). > + Many key combinations (known as ``keyboard shortcuts'') that have > +conventional uses in MS-Windows programs conflict with traditional > +Emacs commands. This conflict arose because the designers of Windows > +did not concern themselves with how Emacs used these characters. > +Examples include @kbd{C-c}, @kbd{C-x}, @kbd{C-z}, @kbd{C-a}, and > +@kbd{W-@key{SPC}}. You can redefine some of them with meanings more > +like the MS-Windows meanings by enabling CUA Mode (@pxref{CUA > +Bindings}). The original text was completely neutral, whereas the new one is so grotesque that it's at best suitable for anti.texi, and at worst is an insult to the reader's intelligence. To add insult to injury, the ChangeLog entry accuses me of being lopsided towards Windows: * msdog.texi (Windows Keyboard): Explain that Windows was incompatible with Emacs, not vice versa. Such incidents make me wonder why I still spend almost all my free time working on Emacs, if what I get in return is this kind of rudeness.