From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: when emacs 22.1 release will ready? Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:10:38 +0300 Message-ID: References: <259495020704291337s35dd584fi3b7ef1dd511b11d4@mail.gmail.com> <4635B7F9.8090909@gmail.com> <4635B8F8.9020309@gnu.org> <4635BCB6.9060108@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177960267 28318 80.91.229.12 (30 Apr 2007 19:11:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 19:11:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: alexott@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, jasonr@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 30 21:11:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HibH6-0003cO-Tz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:11:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HibNJ-00041c-To for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:17:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HibNG-000402-Ia for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:17:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HibNF-0003xO-4b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:17:26 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HibNE-0003wr-VJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:17:24 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HibH0-0006xm-A6; Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:10:58 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-233-248.inter.net.il [84.229.233.248]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id HSV18890 (AUTH halo1); Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:10:36 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <4635BCB6.9060108@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:70415 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:53:58 +0200 > From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" > Cc: Alex Ott , emacs-devel@gnu.org, > "Kim F. Storm" > > > The quality of Emacs hasn't changed considerably over the past 3 years. > > What would change it is to do a proper pretest cycle where only > > regressions are fixed with the aim of reaching zero code changes after a > > few pretest releases and releasing at that point. > > But how can you be sure that the changes does not cause new regressions > without some kind of more automatic testing (like unit tests then)? Jason said ``zero code changes''. Zero changes can never cause any regressions.