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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: saveplace: don't ask for coding system
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2007 23:32:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u8x4aywmf.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7ccd24b0712040840y5a81cf73i4ff3b5986f934f2b@mail.gmail.com> (lekktu@gmail.com)

> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2007 17:40:57 +0100
> From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
> Cc: "Emacs Devel" <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> 
> Which brings forth a similar case: the savehist-file (from
> savehist.el) is by default saved in utf-8 (at least on recent XEmacs
> and Emacs). However, the eol-conversion is left for Emacs to decide.

When saving history, there's nothing to decide: savehist uses a
temporary buffer, which is born with the native EOL convention of the
underlying platform: -unix on Posix platforms, -dos on Windows.

> That's Not Good when some of the saved variables contain "^M" or "^J"
> on a non-unix environment.

So you mean when reading the history file, yes?

> For example, I did some "^M^J" -> "^J"
> replacements (to fix a garbled patch) on Windows, and in subsequent
> invocations of Emacs the contents of query-replace-history got sillier
> and sillier: "^M^M^J", "^M^M^M^M^J", etc.
> 
> Now, savehist.el is friendly enough to contain a variable
> `savehist-coding-system', so it's easy to fix in your own .emacs. The
> question is, for a file whose intention is to preserve exactly some
> variable's contents, wouldn't be a better default to use utf-8-unix?

I don't think it's better, because a lone ^M can fool Emacs even if we
use -unix.  What would help, I think, is have an explicit EOL
conversion stated in the coding: cookie.  Then the fragile guesswork
will be bypassed.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-04 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-11-28 14:46 saveplace: don't ask for coding system David Reitter
2007-11-28 21:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-29  0:25   ` David Reitter
2007-12-03  1:04     ` General variable for verbosity level. (was: saveplace: don't ask for coding system) Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 20:22       ` David Reitter
2007-12-03 21:44         ` General variable for verbosity level Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 22:34       ` Reiner Steib
2007-11-29  9:04   ` saveplace: don't ask for coding system Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29 21:04     ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-11-30  9:17       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-29  9:05 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-02 16:51   ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 21:26     ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-02 21:31       ` David Reitter
2007-12-02 23:23         ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03  4:18           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 10:59             ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-03 11:06               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-03 21:02                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-03 20:48               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-03 21:32                 ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04  4:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04  6:17                     ` Karl Fogel
2007-12-04 20:57                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-04 16:40                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 21:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2007-12-04 22:24                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-05  4:52                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05  8:49                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-05 18:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-05 20:05                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-06  4:21                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-12-06 12:38                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 22:51                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-12-04 16:55                   ` Richard Stallman

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