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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacsclient's option decoding code
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 06:10:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u8wrop8om.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy6zou0tr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com,  cyd@stupidchicken.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:56:25 -0500
> 
> > But this is guesswork at best, and cannot possibly DTRT in every
> > possible use-case, because emacsclient have no way of knowing what the
> > Emacs server can or cannot do.
> 
> Some of the decisions could benefit from being moved to/from the client
> from/to the server, indeed.
> But returning an error if the user requests something that can't be done
> is often better than trying to be clever.

I don't see why erroring out is better.

> >   . if --display=DISPLAY was specified, try the given DISPLAY, if that
> >     fails, try ":0.0", if that fails, try using a tty;
> 
> :0.0 may be miles away from the user's eyes, so if $DISPLAY fails,
> better signal an error and let the user manually switch to :0.0 if
> that's what he wants to do.

If :0.0 is miles away, there's no difference between an error and
display miles away: in both cases, the user needs to fix something and
reinvoke.  What I suggest is better because if :0.0 is NOT miles away,
it does TRT, while erroring does not.

> It might be OK to provide an option to do that, but silently doing so
> without the user's constent may be worse than signalling an error and
> letting *her* switch to the appropriate tty.

We do it today already, with the kind of guesswork we have in
emacsclient.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-13  4:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-01 14:04 emacsclient's option decoding code Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-02  2:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-02 21:45 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-02 22:00   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-02 23:18     ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-03  0:50       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03  4:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 12:12           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 20:06             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 20:19               ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-04  4:20                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-04 16:40                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-06 11:56                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 21:26               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-04  4:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-06 12:08                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07  9:53                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 11:42                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07 11:47                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-07 14:36                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-07 14:42                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-10 18:22                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-10 18:36                                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-10 23:33                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11  4:09                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11  4:14                                   ` Chong Yidong
2008-11-11 21:16                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11  9:39                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11 15:37                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-11 21:24                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-11 23:36                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12  4:22                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12  9:41                                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 19:14                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12 21:05                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13  4:12                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13  8:34                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 19:37                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12  2:31                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-12  9:33                                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 15:56                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-12 16:37                                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-12 17:13                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-13  1:16                                               ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-13  4:18                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13  9:00                                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 15:45                                                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-13 16:05                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 16:05                                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-13 16:08                                                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-11-12 19:36                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-12 20:56                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-11-13  4:10                                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-11-13  4:29                                               ` mail
2008-11-13 20:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13 21:27                                                   ` mail
2008-11-13 22:30                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-13 23:54                                                       ` mail
2008-11-13 20:03                                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-13 20:40                                             ` mail
2008-11-13 21:08                                               ` Thorsten Bonow
2008-11-13 22:01                                               ` Thorsten Bonow
2008-11-15  2:58                               ` Evil Boris
2008-11-07 14:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 14:45           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-11-03 19:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-03 20:03             ` Eli Zaretskii

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