From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Ulrich Mueller Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Closing displays GTK+ bug (was: "Why is emacs so square?") Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:26:24 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83zhbcg6s4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1wng2ki.fsf@linaro.org> <83o8rrenn1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="37708"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cc: Alex =?utf-8?Q?Benn=C3=A9e?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 18:27:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jP7MG-0009iT-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 18:27:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36796 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jP7ME-0000Ry-Rm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:27:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57794) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jP7Lg-0008Av-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:26:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jP7Le-0001RD-IH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:26:43 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:53606) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jP7LV-0001Ke-35; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 12:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from themis (dslb-094-219-189-189.094.219.pools.vodafone-ip.de [94.219.189.189]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: ulm) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7C7F634EF46; Thu, 16 Apr 2020 16:26:28 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83o8rrenn1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 16 Apr 2020 13:22:10 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 140.211.166.183 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247098 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 16 Apr 2020, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> I still run lucid because there is a long term bug in the GTK engine >> which I don't understand but gets loudly reported whenever you run >> it. I'm not sure if this is down to the toolkit Same here. > This is because GTK+ has a bug that AFAIR they don't intend to fix > because they don't consider our use of GTK+ important enough (or > correct, for that matter). This is the state fo affairs for how long now? More than 10 years? My guess would be that the GTK+ bug will never be fixed. I just wonder if it wouldn't be consequent to make multi-tty features and GTK+ mutually exclude each other. Alternatively, move to Qt instead of GTK+ (though I can see the NIH argument there).