From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Abrahams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NTEmacs, smtpmail-queue-mail, and line-endings Date: 06 Nov 2002 15:21:20 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036617240 26937 80.91.224.249 (6 Nov 2002 21:14:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 189XUE-0006x4-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:13:18 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 189Xct-0003wZ-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:22:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 189XRe-0000GW-00; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 16:10:38 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 189X9T-0000M1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:51:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 189Wvt-00047a-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:37:50 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 189Wvs-00046f-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 15:37:48 -0500 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 189WtF-0004Cv-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:35:05 +0100 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Received: from news by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 189Wrk-000457-00 for ; Wed, 06 Nov 2002 21:33:32 +0100 Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 146-115-123-43.c3-0.smr-ubr2.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com Original-X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1036614812 15293 146.115.123.43 (6 Nov 2002 20:33:32 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:33:32 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9202 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9202 David Abrahams writes: > Hi, > > I'm not sure I'm posting this to the right places, but I hope someone > here can help. > > I'm using NTEmacs 21.2 with a very recent smtpmail.el (from GNU emacs > CVS, I think), and I'm setting smtpmail-queue-mail so that I don't > have to wait for the server each time I finish composing a message. > > In order to get queueing to work, I had to set: > > (setq smtpmail-mail-address "dave@boost-consulting.com") > > Which seems wrong because it isn't documented, but without it my > outgoing messages were being rejected as having no sender. > > However, I've received a number of complaints from people I'm > corresponding with. For example, Microsoft Outlook users (I'm sure > some of you will say they deserve what they get, but I need to > correspond with them anyway) all say: > > Not sure what's up w/ your mailer. All email from you has no > subject, and the cc: line appears in the body. On top of that, > it's double spaced. > > Other people simply never see my emails; presumably they're being > silently rejected by their server somewhere. > > And some Linux users have problems, too (see bottom of this > message). The email looks fine to me on its way out; my best guess is > that the DOS '\r\n' line ending convention is messing things up. The > files stored in ~/Mail/queued-mail, waiting to go out. do indeed have > DOS line-endings. > > Any clues about how to repair this would be much-appreciated! One further piece of information: if I manually go into the queued-mail/ folder and change the coding system in the messages to 'undecided-unix, people seem to get the right thing. I could probably hack my smtpmail.el to do that for me at some point in the chain, but I am a bit clueless about coding systems, so I'd have no idea if that's really the right thing to do. In particular, it seems like it could mess up embedded MIME attachments. -- David Abrahams dave@boost-consulting.com * http://www.boost-consulting.com