From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jason Rumney Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Better default values for tooltip padding and `tooltip-hide-delay'? Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 14:17:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128173883 6486 80.91.229.2 (1 Oct 2005 13:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 13:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 01 15:38:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELhY3-0006H4-0r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 15:37:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELhVb-0007C6-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ELhUx-0006zr-4j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:33:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ELhUo-0006ui-8s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:33:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ELhUn-0006rP-HP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:33:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [194.106.33.237] (helo=outmail.freedom2surf.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1ELhGC-0002sq-Nl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:18:41 -0400 Original-Received: from wanchan.jasonrumney.net (i-83-67-23-108.freedom2surf.net [83.67.23.108]) by outmail.freedom2surf.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j91DIcch003651; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:18:39 +0100 Original-Received: from TONKOTSU-RAMEN (tonkotsu-ramen.jasonrumney.net [10.0.0.28]) by wanchan.jasonrumney.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57886DDD37; Sat, 1 Oct 2005 14:18:53 +0100 (BST) Original-To: Frank Schmitt In-Reply-To: (Frank Schmitt's message of "Sat, 01 Oct 2005 01:03:04 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43426 Archived-At: Frank Schmitt writes: > Tooltip are for me normally over point, and therefore over the text > most recently written, hiding it. I need it to go away to see what I > wrote last so I can continue there. To be able to do it I must either > insert some character I don't really want to type or reach over for the > mouse. It is unusual for the mouse to be normally over point, do you have some special code for making the mouse track point (anti-avoid.el)? I think that would be annoying whether tooltips popped up or not. But this has been discussed in October 2001, when the default was 5 seconds, and the consensus then was to increase tooltip-hide-delay to 10 seconds. So I don't think we should change it now without carefully considering the arguments that were made for increasing it in the first place.