From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files? Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:24:03 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310281746.h9SHk2915693@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067446282 31879 80.91.224.253 (29 Oct 2003 16:51:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: karl@freefriends.org, dirt@gtk.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 29 17:51:19 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEtXT-0001x2-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:51:19 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AEtXT-0001hQ-00 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:51:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEtMg-0005qH-OL for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:40:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEtJI-00058J-HR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:36:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AEtIX-0004yr-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:36:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AEtIX-0004yE-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 11:35:53 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 15894 invoked by uid 65534); 29 Oct 2003 16:35:50 -0000 Original-Received: from dialin-145-254-191-179.arcor-ip.net (EHLO HERMES) (145.254.191.179) by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 29 Oct 2003 17:35:50 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1497658 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "29 Oct 2003 16:21:56 +0200") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17556 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17556 Eli Zaretskii writes: [...] > IMHO, to get the standalone Info to support such a format, it would > require a major rewrite. Currently, the display code of the > standalone reader basically just writes the text as-is to the screen; > what you suggest would make its job much harder. That's a pity. However, maybe you could consider it as an option for the info format in the future, whether or not you introduce ANSI escape sequences for now. Actually I suggested it in a response to Stefan just as a way to get something like HTML without writing a real HTML renderer. Personally I wouldn't care as much about the actual format as long as it is syntactical. But on a second thought, I think one big benefit of something HTML-like is that users who don't use Emacs and who don't like the tty reader could use their favourite browser to read the info files in the system's central info directory. IIRC desctop environments like KDE or Gnome already use a browser for their “help desk”, for example (or has that changed since the last time I looked?). Oliver -- Oliver Scholz 8 Brumaire an 212 de la Révolution Taunusstr. 25 Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité! 60329 Frankfurt a. M. http://www.jungdemokratenhessen.de Tel. (069) 97 40 99 42 http://www.jdjl.org