From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: 04 Dec 2003 10:04:29 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <8765heixvu.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87ptfkdqss.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20031122214251.GA14680@fencepost> <874qwuqjzw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311241619.hAOGJ6W27027@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200312030147.hB31lUh20316@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <2914-Wed03Dec2003181809+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <200312040254.hB42sjq25857@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070525064 10140 80.91.224.253 (4 Dec 2003 08:04:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, epameinondas@gmx.de, nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk, bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 09:04:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARoTE-0006Ya-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:04:20 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARoTE-0004Ez-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:04:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARpQ2-0005od-Az for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:05:06 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARpPS-0005lt-C9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:04:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARpOv-0005WO-N7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:04:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [207.232.27.5] (helo=WST0054) by monty-python.gnu.org with asmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARpOv-0005Uc-1H; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 04:03:57 -0500 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200312040254.hB42sjq25857@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:54:45 -0600 (CST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18356 > Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:54:45 -0600 (CST) > From: Luc Teirlinck > > Does anybody have any idea where we stand now with this thread and its > various relatives? IMHO, to make this discussion useful, it needs to be conducted on a Texinfo forum first and foremost. This is mostly because the following item: > 3. Oliver Scholz has a patch to allow the standalone reader to convert > XML to Info format "on the fly", so people would only need to have > the XML files installed to use both Emacs Info and standalone Info. > Oliver's patch would add some "color" to standalone Info. (Unless > these colors would be very customizable, or maybe even if they are, > please provide a command line option to disable this. Not > everybody can read yellow on white, cyan on white or red on black.) is related to the stand-alone reader, not to Emacs (for which no equivalent changes are available). Personally, I think that a move to XML is a good idea, but such a transition would take a non-trivial period of time, during which we will need to support installations where some or all of the manuals are in Info format.