From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:32:36 +0300 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153193577 11178 80.91.229.2 (18 Jul 2006 03:32:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 03:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 18 05:32:55 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2gKH-0001Rx-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 05:32:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2gKH-0000Jl-AH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2gK4-0000If-9j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2gK2-0000IR-R2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:36 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2gK2-0000IO-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2gMq-0005si-Gb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 23:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-141-38.inter.net.il [80.230.141.38]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id FHG00967 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 18 Jul 2006 06:32:32 +0300 (IDT) Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57237 Archived-At: > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:01:16 -0700 > > > If there is a separate standalone-reader manual, then stuff > > that is specific > > to the standalone reader should go in that manual. > > See my other mail for the reasons why this would be not a good idea. > > I read your other emails (unless there is yet another somewhere), and I > didn't see any reasons for this. Please point them out. The need to have the Info manual be the first manual they read. > I saw some hand-waving about bootstrapping Sigh. Do you really think this style facilitates fruitful discussion? > Isn't the fact that you didn't even know about that other manual's > existence tells volumes of why we shouldn't leave out stuff related to > its basics from the beginners' Info manual? > > No, I don't see the relation between my ignorance of the standalone-reader > manual and "why we shouldn't leave out stuff..." What's the connection? What > volumes does it tell? Can you be specific? Specifically, it is not a good idea to describe basic stuff in a manual that no one will find. > Please at least read the other manual before you argue about the > duplication issue. They are two different manuals--different in > style, in preferences, and in target audience. > > You should be able to characterize the difference for those of us on the > list. But I just did--in the text you cited above.