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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: pmr@pajato.com, stephen@xemacs.org, ueno@unixuser.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Need some help with Rmail/mbox
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 06:07:34 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u63ooq3nt.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzlm117p7.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> Cc: ueno@unixuser.org,  pmr@pajato.com,  stephen@xemacs.org,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:07:10 -0400
> 
> >> >> The only reliable way to do decoding in buffers is by using
> >> >> the `destination' argument to decode-coding-region so that you can
> >> >> decode from a unibyte buffer into a multibyte buffer.
> >> > Why is that the only reliable method, and what do you suggest as the
> >> > value of `destination' argument for it to DTRT?
> >> As I said in my message: use the dest arg so as to "decode from
> >> a unibyte buffer into a multibyte buffer", so `destination' should be
> >> ... a multibyte buffer.
> > And the source a unibyte one?
> 
> Yes, of course.
> 
> >> As for why it's the only reliable method, it's because:
> >> >> Dealing with "bytes in a multibyte buffer" or with "non-ascii chars in
> >> >> a unibyte buffer" (as is necessarily the case either as source or as
> >> >> destination if you do the decoding in-place) is just too delicate in my
> >> >> experience (and of course, it's also somewhat inefficient).
> >> I'm not sure which part of the above paragraph is unclear.
> > The fact that other methods are not 100% reliable does not yet mean
> > that this one is.  I thought you had a more specific explanation why
> > this method is reliable.
> 
> No, I don't have such an explanation, except that the most natural input
> for decoding is a unibyte (string|buffer) and the most natural output is
> a multibyte (string|buffer).  I'd expect that to be pretty obvious.

That would mean Rmail/mbox will need to use another unibyte scratch
buffer for decoding MIME-encoded text: first qp- or b64-decode it into
another unibyte buffer, then decode-coding-region from there to the
(multibyte) display buffer.




  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-22  3:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-18 16:02 Need some help with Rmail/mbox Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-19  3:28 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-09-19  5:35   ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-19  9:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-20  7:12     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-09-20 10:04       ` Daiki Ueno
2008-09-20 10:19         ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-20 10:46           ` Daiki Ueno
2008-09-20 11:30             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-20 23:33               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-21  3:18                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-21 13:34               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-21 17:59                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-21 19:26                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-21 20:56                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-21 22:07                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-22  3:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2008-09-22  3:36                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-22  3:41                           ` Daiki Ueno
2008-09-22  3:58                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-22 18:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-09-22  4:31                         ` Kenichi Handa
2008-09-22 14:10                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-24  0:56                             ` Kenichi Handa
2008-09-24  2:53                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-24  3:48                                 ` Kenichi Handa
2008-09-22 15:24                           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-20 13:48         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-09-21  0:57           ` Daiki Ueno
2008-09-22  9:14             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-09-19  4:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-19  4:30 ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-19  9:12 ` Eli Zaretskii

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