From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Right Alt/Meta keys on Windows systems Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:29:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <200512281541.jBSFfXUQ013499@copa.pajato.com> <200512282155.22035.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200512282231.19843.pogonyshev@gmx.net> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135830564 21636 80.91.229.2 (29 Dec 2005 04:29:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:29:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 29 05:29:21 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErpPk-00079B-I0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:29:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErpR5-0004fY-9k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:30:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ErpQt-0004f9-Pg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1ErpQs-0004ev-09 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:30:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1ErpQr-0004es-TG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:30:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.20] (helo=nitzan.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1ErpR9-0007hD-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:30:47 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-236-138.inter.net.il [84.228.236.138]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.2-GA) with ESMTP id CHS93935 (AUTH halo1); Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:29:01 +0200 (IST) Original-To: Paul Pogonyshev In-reply-to: <200512282231.19843.pogonyshev@gmx.net> (message from Paul Pogonyshev on Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:31:19 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48477 Archived-At: > From: Paul Pogonyshev > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:31:19 +0200 > Cc: pmr@pajato.com > > Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Paul Pogonyshev > > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:55:21 +0200 > > > Cc: pmr@pajato.com > > > > > > I think it is related to the issue I raised under topic `wish: right alt/meta > > > to switch keyboard layout while pressed'. I.e. right Alt acts as a temporary > > > layout switcher and so it does not look as Alt to applications. > > > > Sorry, I'm not following: are you talking about keyboard language > > switch invoked on MS-Windows with the Alt-SPC combination? If so, > > then the keyboard switch works for me as I'd expect (i.e., the same as > > it does in other Windows applications), and it doesn't affect the > > right Alt to META mapping in any way. > > Well, you should have probably re-read that thread's opening message. You must be kidding: I replied to that opening message. It says: I currently find myself having to use Windows/XP for a short while. My first action was to install cygwin and rebuild the latest CVS Emacs snapshot. Much to my chagrin, it would appear that the ancient Windows right Alt/Meta key problem still exists (the right Alt key is NOT a Meta modifier key as is the left one). There's nothing here about language switching, just about rge right Alt key. > I'm talking about a common function of right Alt key: it temporary > (while pressed) disables the current layout and switches to English > layout. I don't see this on MS-Windows. Is this supposed to work on Windows? Note that the opening message clearly talks about Windows-related issues. > I guess _that's_ why right Alt doesn't work as Alt in Emacs for > Lennart Borgman. The opening message wasn't from Lennart, it was from Paul Michael Reilly. > > Are we still talking about the MS-Windows port of Emacs? Or are we > > talking about Emacs on GNU/Linux? The OP raised the issue for > > Windows. > > Now I'm talking about GNU/Linux, where Emacs is working incosistently with > the rest of the system. It disregards Mode_switch (i.e. right Alt when > working in the layout-disabling mode I described above) when working with > LEIM. That's another issue altogether, let's not add to confusion.