Diff patches

Diff patches

[Juanma Barranquero]

Seems like the emacs-diff list is broken?

                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:01:07 +0100
> From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
> 
> Seems like the emacs-diff list is broken?

How do you see that?

I received the last digest today, Sun, 12 Nov 2006 12:06:04 -0500.
The last change was by you, to lisp/ChangeLog:

    Index: ChangeLog
    ===================================================================
    RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/lisp/ChangeLog,v
    retrieving revision 1.10299
    retrieving revision 1.10300
    diff -u -b -r1.10299 -r1.10300
    --- ChangeLog	11 Nov 2006 16:13:41 -0000	1.10299
    +++ ChangeLog	12 Nov 2006 05:38:32 -0000	1.10300
    @@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
    +2006-11-12  Juanma Barranquero  <lekktu@gmail.com>
    +
    +	* emacs-lisp/re-builder.el (reb-mode): Set `blink-matching-paren' to
    +	nil in the *RE-Builder* buffer (it causes spurious error messages).
    +
    +	* server.el (server-visit-files): If `minibuffer-auto-raise' has
    +	been set to t, respect it.
    +
     2006-11-11  Stephen Leake  <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org>

	    * progmodes/ada-mode.el: Delete `eval-and-compile' around `require'.

Re: Diff patches

[Juanma Barranquero]

On 11/13/06, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> How do you see that?

Several people has done commits today and I didn't receive any diff
message. Usually I receive them quite fast.

                    /L/e/k/t/u

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:30:22 +0100
> From: "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Several people has done commits today and I didn't receive any diff
> message. Usually I receive them quite fast.

Sorry, I don't see anything strange in the list's admin interface.
Let's wait and see.

Re: Diff patches

[Kim F. Storm]

"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:

> On 11/13/06, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> How do you see that?
>
> Several people has done commits today and I didn't receive any diff
> message. Usually I receive them quite fast.

I don't subscribe to the diff list directly, but read it via gmane.org --
and the last message on gmane.org is from yesterday.  Normally, the
diffs appear on that list almost instantly...

-- 
Kim F. Storm <storm@cua.dk> http://www.cua.dk

Re: Diff patches

[Glenn Morris]

"Juanma Barranquero" wrote:

> On 11/13/06, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> How do you see that?
>
> Several people has done commits today and I didn't receive any diff
> message. Usually I receive them quite fast.

Recently when I made a commit, I received a message back that "my"
posting (ie the automatically generated one from CVS) to emacs-diff
was being held for moderator approval. It appeared on the list after a
larger than normal delay. At least, I'm pretty sure this is how it
happened...

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:33:02 -0500
> 
> Recently when I made a commit, I received a message back that "my"
> posting (ie the automatically generated one from CVS) to emacs-diff
> was being held for moderator approval.

This is normal: emacs-diffs is indeed a moderated list, it became that
because it was getting a huge amount of spam when it was unmoderated.
Frequent contributors of commits are in the white list and are
approved automatically, but you weren't one of them.

> It appeared on the list after a larger than normal delay.

I'm the only moderator, and I'm only human...  However, I don't see a
delay in disseminating diffs as crucial.

Re: Diff patches

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> This is normal: emacs-diffs is indeed a moderated list, it became
> that because it was getting a huge amount of spam when it was
> unmoderated.

I know about the spam. I would have guessed it sufficient to
automatically filter anything where the subject was not "Changes
to..." rather than having a human moderator; but of course that also
requires someone to set it up.

>> It appeared on the list after a larger than normal delay.
>
> I'm the only moderator, and I'm only human...  However, I don't see a
> delay in disseminating diffs as crucial.

Just to be clear; I wasn't complaining about the delay at all (thanks
for your anti-spam efforts!); just offering it as a possible
explanation in this case (coincidentally, I just became aware of the
moderation recently).

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 22:18:02 +0100
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> "Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > On 11/13/06, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> >> How do you see that?
> >
> > Several people has done commits today and I didn't receive any diff
> > message. Usually I receive them quite fast.
> 
> I don't subscribe to the diff list directly, but read it via gmane.org --
> and the last message on gmane.org is from yesterday.  Normally, the
> diffs appear on that list almost instantly...

I asked the sysadmin to look into this.

Re: Diff patches

[Richard Stallman]

    Seems like the emacs-diff list is broken?

Why do you think so?  I got diffs in my last mail batch
(the same one that your message arrived in).

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: lekktu@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 23:34:48 -0500
> 
> I would have guessed it sufficient to automatically filter anything
> where the subject was not "Changes to..." rather than having a human
> moderator

I've set that up, too, but it somehow does not always works.  Go
figure.

Re: Diff patches

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 07:26:49 -0500
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
>     Seems like the emacs-diff list is broken?
> 
> Why do you think so?  I got diffs in my last mail batch
> (the same one that your message arrived in).

Something's not right: according to

  http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-diffs/2006-11/index.html

the last commit was on Sun Nov 12 2006 00:38:37 -0500, which was 2
days ago.  That's too long ago.

Btw, the mailing list is not broken, since I regularly discard the few
spam messages that require my attention.  It looks like the CVS simply
isn't sending diffs to the list.  The same happens with emacs-commit,
btw.

I asked sysadmin to look into that.