From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: Nit-picking (was: 23.0.60; M-( and M-) should not be bound in ESC map) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:40:13 +0300 Message-ID: References: <003801c89a85$fcd95ad0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <008d01c89b26$8aacebb0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207989669 8819 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2008 08:41:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:41:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 12 10:41:42 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JkbIr-0005yp-Vn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 10:41:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkbID-0001DK-Mm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:41:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkbI7-0001D5-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JkbI6-0001C5-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JkbI6-0001Bo-Db for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkbI6-0004HU-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JkbI5-0000cW-GG for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkbI1-0004H2-Tt for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JkbI1-0004Go-HX; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 04:40:49 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([80.230.158.193]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0JZ700DH8FEDJBA0@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:54:13 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95020 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21985 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:09:56 -0400 > Cc: schwab@suse.de, emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org > > Just because a decision was made long ago does not mean that it is the right > decision now or even that it was the right decision then. > > That is true, but it is also true that if we keep reopening questions > decided long ago, we will make our lives very difficult and probably > make little progress. We have to leave well enough alone for the old > features most of the time, in order to have time to add the new features > we know we want. Amen. Perhaps it's just me, but there appear to be too many threads on this list that I need to skip entirely, due to their endless discussions of issues of miniscule importance. OTOH, I don't remember any discussions of important new features for quite some time. It almost looks like no important development is going on.