From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Why @#! is not Emacs using the Recycle bin on w32? Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:06:37 +0300 Message-ID: References: <48B7288E.3040503@gmail.com> <48B73AA9.5090900@gnu.org> <48B73D8F.90501@gmail.com> <48B7AC10.6090800@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1219997289 32531 80.91.229.12 (29 Aug 2008 08:08:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, jasonr@gnu.org To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 29 10:09:03 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KYz1c-0000Ci-BL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:08:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41208 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYz0d-0008U5-Mr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:07:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYz0Y-0008S8-Ot for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KYz0W-0008Po-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:07:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49136 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KYz0W-0008Pi-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:07:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:62986) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYz0Q-0007Xl-Tr; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:06:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout7.012.net.il ([84.95.2.19]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KYz0Q-0001jN-7A; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:06:54 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.211.50]) by i-mtaout7.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K6C00671RVYKZ20@i-mtaout7.012.net.il>; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:07:11 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <48B7AC10.6090800@gmail.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (1203?) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:103143 > Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:58:08 +0200 > From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" > CC: jasonr@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > Who said I do not want to customize my .emacs? If you do, then making this the default should not be so important for you. This is a new feature, introduced just recently; prudence would have it that we let the feature be used for some time before even thinking to make it the default. Especially since at least some of us here do not share your enthusiasm for it. > A little bit more seriously, what is your argument? What harm does it > make to turn on this by default? Jason explained one harm. Another one is that I like my disks have lots of free space, and don't expect deleted files to stay on them. > My impression is the opposite, that most well written w32 programs use > the Recycle Bin. If you define a ``well written program'' as a program that use the Bin, then I agree. Otherwise, please give some examples of programs that do and those which don't, and tell why you think the former are more ``well written'' than the latter.