From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Printing Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:59:58 +0300 Message-ID: References: <5f0660120903280331y780c80b7i57a8115dc4b029eb@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238447011 1032 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2009 21:03:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, cmr.pent@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 30 23:04:48 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LoOeV-00029E-Eg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:04:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35951 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LoOd7-0007vz-RP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LoOcN-0007mQ-Fg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LoOcM-0007m0-JI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50742 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LoOcM-0007lv-8Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:38168) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LoOcJ-0005r1-Og; Mon, 30 Mar 2009 17:02:00 -0400 Original-Received: from conversion-daemon.i-mtaout1.012.net.il by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) id <0KHC00L007OA4I00@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:01:58 +0300 (IDT) Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([87.70.3.64]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0KHC00EL17R9MW20@i-mtaout1.012.net.il>; Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:01:58 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109927 Archived-At: > Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 22:53:04 +0200 > From: Lennart Borgman > Cc: rms@gnu.org, cmr.pent@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >=20 > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:48 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrot= e: > >> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:04:37 +0200 > >> From: Lennart Borgman > >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, cmr.pent@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Eli Zaretskii wr= ote: > >> >> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:36:01 +0200 > >> >> From: Lennart Borgman > >> >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, cmr.pent@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:10 AM, Eli Zaretskii = wrote: > >> >> > One way to fix this would be to update our default for > >> >> > ps-mule-font-info-database so that it handles Unicode -- as= suming that > >> >> > modern PostScript printers indeed support large subranges o= f the > >> >> > Unicode codespace. =A0I'm not an expert on printing, so I w= ouldn't know > >> >> > if this is possible. > >> >> > >> >> Since printing with Emacs through the web browser (using > >> >> htmlfontify.el) does work it seems like modern printers do su= pport > >> >> this. Or am I missing something? > >> > > >> > You are missing the fact that I was talking about PostScript p= rinting, > >> > not printing via the Windows printer API. > >> > >> I am not sure about that. Could someone who have this problem an= d have > >> a PostScript printer try printing through the web browser, pleas= e? > > > > And that will prove what, exactly? that Windows knows how to use = a PS > > driver for a printer? >=20 > I think that the browser will send PostScript to the printer. Yes, it will. > So I believe it will show that the printer actually can print all > the text Not necessarily: PostScript language includes a capability to downloa= d characters and images to the printer. So the fact that something is on paper does not yet mean it was printed using fonts that are built into the printer. (See ps-bdf.el for an example of how Emacs does that; however, the results are not very nice, perhaps because the BDF fonts are not suited well to printer resolution, only to that of terminals.)