From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes to Texinfo DTD Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:48:46 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <8765heixvu.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <87ptfkdqss.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> <20031122214251.GA14680@fencepost> <874qwuqjzw.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <200311241619.hAOGJ6W27027@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200312030147.hB31lUh20316@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <2914-Wed03Dec2003181809+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <200312040254.hB42sjq25857@raven.dms.auburn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070541900 8898 80.91.224.253 (4 Dec 2003 12:45:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Luc Teirlinck , nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 04 13:44:54 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARsqk-00035C-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:44:54 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARsqj-0007Oz-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:44:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARszE-0008UC-Bs for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:53:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARsyL-0008Rl-Gi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1ARsxo-0008K8-2Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:52:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.165.64.20] (helo=mail.gmx.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1ARsxm-0008Jn-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 07:52:10 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 19943 invoked by uid 65534); 4 Dec 2003 11:50:43 -0000 Original-Received: from dialin-145-254-191-021.arcor-ip.net (EHLO HERMES) (145.254.191.21) by mail.gmx.net (mp004) with SMTP; 04 Dec 2003 12:50:43 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1497658 Original-To: juri@jurta.org In-Reply-To: (Oliver Scholz's message of "Thu, 04 Dec 2003 10:39:27 +0100") X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/22.0.0 (windows-nt) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:18361 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:18361 Oliver Scholz writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > [...] >> Personally, I think that a move to XML is a good idea, but such a >> transition would take a non-trivial period of time, during which we >> will need to support installations where some or all of the manuals >> are in Info format. In my previous message I forgot to add: I think you are right. Both the standalone info and `C-h i' should check for each file whether it is info XML or the current info format and DTRT. Maybe they should never (i.e. not for a very, very long period of time) cease to do so. However efficient XML rendering may become, it will take more space and more CPU cycles than the current info format. Some people still use i486 processors with 8 MB of core. text/plain info will continue to be a good alternative on low end machines. > Now that you mention it ... It is probably a better idea to implement > the feature in Emacs first. [...] Oliver -- Oliver Scholz 14 Frimaire an 212 de la Révolution Taunusstr. 25 Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité! 60329 Frankfurt a. M. http://www.jungdemokratenhessen.de Tel. (069) 97 40 99 42 http://www.jdjl.org