From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Evil Boris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Auto-fill-mode bug: unbreakable space lost Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:51:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87sm2kpw6z.fsf@jurta.org> <200503251723.j2PHNQln009118@beta.mvs.co.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112108556 30638 80.91.229.2 (29 Mar 2005 15:02:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:02:34 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGIDc-00089B-8Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:01:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGITv-0004wY-KB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:18:15 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGITU-0004q0-8M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:48 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DGITP-0004nu-DP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DGITO-0004gM-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 10:17:42 -0500 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.34) id 1DGI70-00079S-1a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 09:54:34 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DGI3e-0006Hy-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:51:06 +0200 Original-Received: from 207-38-193-43.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com ([207.38.193.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:51:05 +0200 Original-Received: from evilborisnet by 207-38-193-43.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:51:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-38-193-43.c3-0.wsd-ubr1.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jx70JowcekBqYCm6vstqmozo1Ik= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35312 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35312 Richard Stallman writes: > I was thinking that C-x 8 is obsolete, but if this is the best way to > do that, maybe it means C-x 8 is not obsolete. What do people think? This is just my opinion, but I find C-x 8 extremely useful. Most frequently I use no input method at all (I like the characters I type to match the characters that I appear on the screen :), and occasionally have use to cyrillic-translit, say for e-mails. However, to insert an occasional ' into a é I use C-x 8. Is there any nice alternative to doing this? --Boris PS. By the way, should there be some documentation that describes C-x 8 commands, as a group [C-h k only responds to, say "C-x 8 ' a" with the somewhat useless "á [translated from ...] runs self-insert-command"]? Does it exist already? Where and how would I find it? In particular, what encoding does it put the characters into? Is it covered by unify-on-{en,de}coding machinery? How do I find out?