From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 08:44:52 +0200 Message-ID: References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <069BF3EB-C5E4-4042-91E9-0DFB37C58E99@gmail.com> <87u0d3cu9y.fsf@jurta.org> <87y82b7evb.fsf@jurta.org> <9F80EEEC-3EDF-47B5-9837-2091650A8C5D@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1135493155 18513 80.91.229.2 (25 Dec 2005 06:45:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 06:45:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: juri@jurta.org, david.reitter@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 25 07:45:52 2005 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqPdd-0006M4-6E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 07:45:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqPel-0008C3-Hi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:46:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqPdu-0008As-Qp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:46:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EqPdt-0008A0-4s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:46:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EqPdr-00089h-L4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:46:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.114.186.66] (helo=romy.inter.net.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EqPdR-0001Kp-SF; Sun, 25 Dec 2005 01:45:38 -0500 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-228-236-177.inter.net.il [84.228.236.177]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.2-GA) with ESMTP id DFS41406 (AUTH halo1); Sun, 25 Dec 2005 08:44:49 +0200 (IST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:48348 Archived-At: > From: "Richard M. Stallman" > Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:51:22 -0500 > Cc: juri@jurta.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > But I would suggest improving find-file to catch the error in switch- > to-buffer and show the buffer in another window in that case, at > least when called interactively. > > Why do you find it so often useful to invoke Find File > while you're in a minibuffer? I think a more important question is why disable it, not why it could be useful. Here's one situation where it could be useful to me. Sometimes, when I type in the minibuffer, I need to consult some file. If it's already in a displayed window, I can go there with "C-x o" (important when the part I want to read is not in the displayed portion), but if it isn't in any window, I have no way of looking at it except abort whatever I'm doing in the minibuffer, which is annoying. I learned to live with that, but I'd certainly be happier if we lifted that limitation.