From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:25:48 +0300 Message-ID: References: <47F66D8F.6090208@gmail.com> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207333587 27388 80.91.229.12 (4 Apr 2008 18:26:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 18:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Reiner.Steib@gmx.de To: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 04 20:26:59 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jhqco-0006gg-Mw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:26:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JhqcC-0005J5-1u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:26:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqbz-0005CK-3L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:26:03 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqbs-000551-Rf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:58 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jhqbq-00054n-OJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqbq-0000vB-Ea for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqbq-0003MY-4Q for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqbn-0000tu-Qm for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:54 -0400 Original-Received: from romy.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.24]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jhqbn-0000tM-BX for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:25:51 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-84-229-231-225.inter.net.il [84.229.231.225]) by romy.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3-GA) with ESMTP id KRL54018 (AUTH halo1); Fri, 4 Apr 2008 21:25:48 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: <47F66D8F.6090208@gmail.com> (lennart.borgman@gmail.com) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94364 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:21872 Archived-At: > Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 20:03:59 +0200 > From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" > CC: Reiner Steib , emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org > > > If a non-trivial .emacs is loaded after Emacs starts, the effect might > > be different from the same .emacs loaded at startup, due to the stage > > of the startup sequence where .emacs is normally loaded. This could > > surprise users, unless we write a special load function that takes > > care of these subtleties. > > But is not that an argument in favor of the menu item then? I don't see how what I wrote could be in favor or against the menu item. What I tried to say was that a simple (load "~/.emacs") is not what this feature should do, whether from the menu bar or from some other place.